Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: If You're Not Real 160, Don't Fight For Title

[The plunger man]

I know, who the **** quotes themselves. And it's not even to say, see I said this.

I truly don't think he is all there.



You know people have the Internet right.

You twist, turn, and bend to try to make things fit your skewed view on Boxing, but most reasonably intelligent people can see right through it.

He needs help.....I wish I knew him so I could knock some sense into him or take him down the funny farm......he needs monitoring 24/7

[HeroBando]

Say GGG does fight Saul and Cotto? Then what's he going to do next??? It's not like he's ever going to move up in weight class. No! He's going to be calling out Terrance Crawford next. Or maybe Thurman, Bradley,Garcia. Ohh forgot about Postol. I think Rig. is save for now from being called a GGG ducker. But Walters won't be after next year.

Let's see what happens when Cotto/Canelo vacate or get demolished. He should still unify all the belts if Lee wins, since Saunders won't fight him. But there's no way GGG moves up to SMW and starts dragging up MW bums, each worse than previous

[Bigg Rigg]

Right.




I don't think either was for title fight.

Chevez wasn't for sure.

And Froch-Golovkin would of haven his WBA title stripped for failing to face Ward.




Quillin demanded 10 mill. No one is paying him to fight GGG, not like that.



Mayweather is a WW, the 154 is meaning in middle.

Same as with Ward.

Neither title fights.

But never mind those facts, carry on.



Exactly.



People like you lose credibility when you use a now repeatedly debunked Facebook post as a citation for PPV numbers.




Lol!



Ward never said he'd consider a CW. And in fact, Ward only agreed to fight, a year later, once GGG had his PPV lined up.

But weren't you just saying GGG will miss his chance for not fighting Canelo.

You sir talk a game, but spew hypocracy.



Oh, look at you stretching. You can't make that leap, as much as you wish it made sense.

You should be a professional twister player.



So is Floyd ducking GGG because he refuses to fight?

When Ward turned down GGG twice, was that two decks?

You act like he has to give a Jr.MW a title shot, just because Lara once again talks so much.

If Lara was successful in his first call out, then maybe.

GGG wants the guy who beat Lara, not a guy who will not come to even fight.



Naw, and if GGG beat Canelo, you same people would discredit Canelo.

You know it.

GGG has been fighting in the U.S. For how long.

His plan is working fine.

He can get the belts, and Canelo has no where to go. We're fine with Canelo being scared.

Don't talk to me about credibility bro when the topic is about Golovkin and he's obviously your favorite fighter. You're butt hurt so what say about this doesn't even matter to me.

[aboutfkntime]

So, Golovkin would have fought Froch at 168 for his title.....

..... but then defended it against Ward at 164 ?

Really ?

[FeFist]

Yea, but that wasn't the example......

Ward is moving up permanently, fighting the best guy at 175, and staying there.

Those three things make that example completely different.

Sorry for the confusion. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario. Sometimes a fighter is capable of beating the competition in a division north of where they're most comfortable, but it would have a greater strain on their body due to the difference in size. They might simply not want to put their body under unnecessary strain against fighters who are not worth it.

An actual example, whether people care to admit it or not, is Mayweather. His fights north of 154lb were De La Hoya, Canelo and Cotto. They were, I believe, the best fighters in their division at the time (you can erase Canelo from the list due to catchweight). I don't think it would have made a lot of sense for him to fight the likes of Lara, Trout or Angulo as he accumulate more wear and tear for a victory that wouldn't really matter.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Say GGG does fight Saul and Cotto? Then what's he going to do next??? It's not like he's ever going to move up in weight class. No! He's going to be calling out Terrance Crawford next. Or maybe Thurman, Bradley,Garcia. Ohh forgot about Postol. I think Rig. is save for now from being called a GGG ducker. But Walters won't be after next year.

Hyperbole.

Cotto is MW lineal Champ.

Canelo rehydrated higher than GGG.

This isn't the same as calling out LW, WW, etc.

The impression that the interviewer was left with is..... that Hypekin wants NOTHING to do with Andre Ward

The interviewer got the feeling that it would take Gennady Golovkin.... oh, around about 5 fkn years to work up the courage to get in the ring with Ward

Its alright, Andre is classy, he moved on.....

Now he can fight Kovalev, Cotto can fight Canelo, and Golovkin can fight..... ?

Go back and read the editorial.

He makes a claim alright, but it's that GGG will be too big of a star for Ward.

Here,

"If Ward wants a fight against Golovkin, he’s likely going to have to wait a long, long time for the fight to happen. We’re probably talking about 5 years or more. Ward will be 37 by that time, and I’m not sure that it’s a fight that the boxing public will even care about. If Golovkin keeps growing in popularity over the next five years, I don’t think the fight between him and Ward could even be made. It would be too much of an imbalance in popularity for Golovkin to his waste his time moving up two entire divisions to fight Ward at light heavyweight. If Golovkin were to make a move up to 175, he’d be better off facing a star on the rise like Sergey Kovalev than he would be for him to fight Ward, who hasn’t done much his career since winning the Super Six tournament in 2011. Kovalev is on his way up while Ward seems to be going downhill by not fighting and not facing the top guys that he needs to in order to increase his star power.

We’re probably talking about 5 years or more. Ward will be 37 by that time

Try reading it.

I know you thought you had something, got a hard on, then the ***** shut the door on you.

Let's see what happens when Cotto/Canelo vacate or get demolished. He should still unify all the belts if Lee wins, since Saunders won't fight him. But there's no way GGG moves up to SMW and starts dragging up MW bums, each worse than previous

Well Eubanks will be the mandatory for Quillin I think, or even lee.

So maybe he has the stones. He is talking like it.

Don't talk to me about credibility bro when the topic is about Golovkin and he's obviously your favorite fighter. You're butt hurt so what say about this doesn't even matter to me.

And still you quoted me. Do you have a point, or is this gibberish it.

Here is you, "you are in love with ggg. He is God to you. Suck his ****. Blah, blah, yada,".

LMAO. Don't quote me then butch.

So, Golovkin would have fought Froch at 168 for his title.....

..... but then defended it against Ward at 164 ?

Really ?

Circle reasoning. As if one doesn't impact the other.

Yea, go find a source that says he'd do that. He would have been Ward's mandatory. Ward would've had same power GGG has to demand no CW.

Ward is also a LHW, last fought at 172. It's been awhile since he's been at 168.

[aboutfkntime]

Sorry for the confusion. I was presenting a hypothetical scenario. Sometimes a fighter is capable of beating the competition in a division north of where they're most comfortable, but it would have a greater strain on their body due to the difference in size. They might simply not want to put their body under unnecessary strain against fighters who are not worth it.

An actual example, whether people care to admit it or not, is Mayweather. His fights north of 154lb were De La Hoya, Canelo and Cotto. They were, I believe, the best fighters in their division at the time (you can erase Canelo from the list due to catchweight). I don't think it would have made a lot of sense for him to fight the likes of Lara, Trout or Angulo as he accumulate more wear and tear for a victory that wouldn't really matter.

Yep true, both good points.

But with the Canelo catchweight, you cant erase that completely.

That way Golovkin would have got NO credit for Ward at 164.

And Pac had at least half-a-dozen catchweight, or weight-affected, fights.

Some say Hoya is Pac's best win

Ward doesn't get NO credit for Dawson..... although that might be a bad example, he gets very little credit for that fight imo.

The catchweight of 152 in the Canelo fight made no difference at all imho.

[aboutfkntime]

"If Ward wants a fight against Golovkin, he’s likely going to have to wait a long, long time for the fight to happen. We’re probably talking about 5 years or more. Ward will be 37 by that time, and I’m not sure that it’s a fight that the boxing public will even care about.

[aboutfkntime]

Circle reasoning. As if one doesn't impact the other.

Circle-jerking more like

So, Golovkin would have fought Froch at 168 for his title.....

..... but then defended it against Ward at 164 ?

[titan m]

I don't disagree with you because I feel the same way, but the fact remains, Canelo will fight at whatever weight he wants. He is the A-side and if GGG refuses then he will look like he avoided canelo. Canelo can be stripped of the title and GGG can be elevated to full champion, but GGG will be just a paper champion without any elite wins,.

If Canelo refuses to fight at the full limit and vacates the belt he will be the one to look bad not GGG, I agree it wont be the same as beating Canelo for it but he cant help it if Canelo wont fight.

As far as A side stuff goes Canelo is a star but not on the level of guys like Mayweather or Pacquiao so just because he comes up with these demands in his head doesn't mean it has to go that way especially because this will be a mandatory defense and not a voluntary, If it was a voluntary defense he might get away with it.