A very very interesting NEW article about Golovkin

[Dip_Slide]

Mayweather since 130 or something has been eager as hell to move up to welterweight and my guess is because he wanted to remove some of the strain of making weight. I know he used to proclaim he'd fight anyone up to 154 as far down since 130.Before his first fight at 147(Mitchell?) he has said 147 is his natural weight and he'd only go back to 140 for the major fights.

Here's one video I remembered to reference to you, Mayweather talking about how he's alot faster at 140 since he's not dehydrating and killing himself to make weight like he did at 135.

His move up in weight was to get bigger fights since there were no big fights left at the lower weights, the goal was Oscar Dela Hoya and Shane Mosley, Floyd wanted these fights and called both out when he was still at 135.

All fighters say that when they move up, they all say I feel more confortable, I can eat better, I feel stronger snd so on, I judge by what I see, if someone dehydrates to make weight they normally rehydrate 10+ lbs after the weigh in, something Floyd has never done, the most he used to rehydrate was around 8-9 pounds and that was at 130.

[OnePunch]

Who beats him in the last 8 years at MW?

Nobody. And certainly none of the guys that have been ducking him the last 5 of those 8 years.....

[IMDAZED]

if you think GGG-Lemieux, Chocolatito-Viloria, and 2 other fights isnt worth $50, then I dont know what to tell you.

Maybe a dvd of Floyd-Berto, a bottle of Jergens, and 2 rolls of paper towels would be more in your wheelhouse.....

Nope, I don't. Good HBO World Championship Card to me.

DVD, Floyd, Jergens, paper towels? That's where your mind went? You ****ing lame

[OnePunch]

His move up in weight was to get bigger fights since there were no big fights left at the lower weights, the goal was Oscar Dela Hoya and Shane Mosley, Floyd wanted these fights and called both out when he was still at 135.

All fighters say that when they move up, they all say I feel more confortable, I can eat better, I feel stronger snd so on, I judge by what I see, if someone dehydrates to make weight they normally rehydrate 10+ lbs after the weigh in, something Floyd has never done, the most he used to rehydrate was around 8-9 pounds and that was at 130.

we dont really know what Floyd rehydrates to, because he does not allow the network to weigh him on fight night. He only provides the network with the figure he wants to disclose.......

[nacho daddy]

what he said is actually true though not a stereotype lol

floyd was born and raised by crackheads, he's talked about it

his dad once used him as a human shield in a drug deal that turned into a gun fight, he was 2 years old

you cant tell a real sub human any true facts about froids degenerate "family"

[GTTofAK]

Nobody. And certainly none of the guys that have been ducking him the last 5 of those 8 years.....

Exactly I think he has trouble and drops at least 1 to the early-mid 00s MW division but not his generation of MWs.

[nacho daddy]

Good article.

As far as the golovkin hate argument, I just find it very funny that his critics only want him to fight Ward. So an active fighter like golovkin is supposed to fight Ward 3 times per year? Anyone else is a bum? That shows you they know how excellent golovkin is as a fighter. He is held to a higher standard than anyone else.

that's because GGG is white and has killed or put fear into the negro fighters at 160

[nacho daddy]

No they're not, and certainly no where near as critical as they are of Golovkin.

in the froid pics you have where he is kneeling and praying is he thanking god that he never got caught on PED's

[Doctor_Tenma]

in the froid pics you have where he is kneeling and praying is he thanking god that he never got caught on PED's

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And that's why I made the sig, I know it stings people.

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1. The middleweights of Hopkins time were far better.

It's pretty obvious there are big similarities between the two as far as their middleweight reigns go so I'm not sure why you're even discussing it in detail here. If you're talking specifically about Hopkins vs Tito and Golovkin vs Canelo, yeah there are differences.

I didn't say which MW era was better, what I said was neither era's were "loaded with talent" which is absolutely true. Regarding boxing as a whole, nearly every weight class is worse now than it was 15-20 years ago. That's a result of the decline of boxing. The talent pool is much smaller today than in years past.

2. Hopkins was hated by all promoters and networks, thus had absolutely NO bargaining power against anyone.

You're explaining something I already know. Joppy & Holmes were title holders for a long while when Hopkins was a single title holder, both promoted by Don King who kept them away from B-hop. Similary, Golovkin had issues getting any Al Haymon fighter, Peter Quillin and Danny Jacobs for example. Golovkin has also simply had title holders and top 5 opponents flat out reject him which was not the result of any boxing politics. You could say Golovkin had no bargaining power either when it came to a potential Cotto fight this year, Sergio Martinez prior and Sturm before that. Hell, he couldn't even get guys like N'dam and Anthony Mundine to fight him. Only very recently has he become recognized as one of boxing stars, which not coincidentally has led to his first unification fight.

3. There were no fighters at 168 in the year 2000, for instance, that would warrant a move up. No prestige, no legacy, nothing. Hopkins had no choice.

Obliviously Roy Jones around that time was a fight people were saying Hopkins should move up in weight for.

4. Trinidad was a heavy favorite over Hopkins. Different perception.

I'm sure that was a big part of the reason Don King made that fight, because he thought he would win. The other part, probably more importantly, was that Trinidad actually wanted to fight Hopkins and unify the belts. There had to be a desire in order for that tourney to be set up in the first place, otherwise Trinidad could have skipped right over Hopkins and went stright to Roy Jones.

I don't think Golden Boy would want a GGG fight immediately, but if the WBC actually holds firm, with pressure from K2, I'm not sold on the idea that Canelo would be willing to be stripped his title and labeled a ducker by the boxing community. Canelo has proven his willingness to fight the best opponents. He is a prideful man and I doubt the Mexican in him would allow him to duck Golovkin, much like the Golden Boy himself, who fought everyone there was to fight.

Imagine Hopkins fighting Keith Holmes on PPV. Goodness. Actually, my bad, Keith Holmes. You beat Richie Woodhall among others. Comparing you to Lemieux is a dead slap in your face.

Obviously Hopkins vs Keith Holmes was a different kind of style of fight than GGG vs Lemieux. It was an ugly, boring fight. People are expecting fireworks with GGG vs Lemieux, which was not expected in the Hopkins fight. A better comparison was the Trinidad vs Joppy PPV. Or worse were all the Mike Tyson vs no hopers that people LOVED to watch. Again, you may not find the value in this fight but many others do. Golovkin being a significant odds favorite isn't much of a representation to the value of entertainment, as it rarely was with a Mayweather, Pacquiao or Tyson fight, or all those who ordered the Trinidad Hopkins PPV despite Trinidad being a big favorite.

Further, I don't know what your crystal ball is telling you, maybe you think Golovkin will win with the first punch of the opening round. Myself, I expect a solid back and forth competitive fight, highly entertaining and I don't think Golovkin walks through him completely untested. I think people are selling Lemieux short here based on his two losses from four or so years ago. Dude has legit power and some decent skills. This is going to be a fight.