Comments Thread For: Team Golovkin Will Want More Than 50% From Ward

[Raonic]

The JMW Canelo, will be fighting the JMW Cotto, for the WBC MW title.

The WBC middleweight title that Cotto accidentally won by winning a money fight with Martinez.

But the bold is rubbish, and a little ignorant.

Canelo is a JMW who can OBVIOUSLY still make 154, he fights at 155 out of entitlement, just like he did at 150. His handlers, Chepo Reynoso to be exact, has explained why.

The fighters who agreed to 155 were JMW's who had to accept 155 or walk.

Saying that Canelo's opponents were MW's is even more inaccurate than stating that Canelo is a MW.

They were OBVIOUSLY JMW's fighting at 155.

Seriously, and this is the point that makes me shake my head..... what fkn middleweight weighs 155?

Absurd discussion.

That is about as dumb as stating that Peterson is a welter for fighting Garcia at 141. What welterweight comes in weighing 141 ffs?

Common-sense > googling the divisional limits and ruling accordingly.

Lol. How can someone be a JMW fighter when he fights above the JMW limit?

Just because he can make JMW doesn't mean he's a JMW if he's not fighting in that division. There's a reason they strip you of titles if you go over the limit. It's because you CAN'T be classified as a champion in that division because you don't actually fall in the rules of that division.

That's literally like basics 101.

The classification of what fight class fighter you are is based on your weight. Even if you can make multiple weight classes, the weight class you obviously fight in the most is clearly the weight class you fight in.

The EXACT definition of a division fighter is a fighter who fights at or below the division limit. That's why they don't allow fighters who weigh over the weight limit fight for titles. Because they don't meet the qualification. A JMW fighter is someone who fights at 154 (the limit) or under. So even if he can make 154, the fact that Canelo fights above that limit means he falls in the next division category, which is MW.

[aboutfkntime]

All Cotto had to do was drop the belt then
He didn't though so he is a MW now. Canelo is a MW too and GGG(also a MW) is mandatory challenger for the winner of Cotto vs Canelo.
It's about ****in time that you understand these things.

Absolutely, he should have dropped the belt !

But then you went full ******.

FACT: holding a belt does not make you a champion

Everyone knows that !

Well, holding a middleweight belt does not make you a middleweight.

Cotto weighs 153, so good luck with that silliness.

Luckily, Hypekin will likely get that fight if he agrees to Mr Cotto's request.

Should Mr Cotto beat Canelo, that is.

Oh, I believe in referring to a genuine A-side as " Mr "

And Canelo is not a MW, he is obviously a JMW.

Seriously, what middleweight weighs 155 ?

Casual fan logic right there.

And as far as the mandatory goes? So what, who fkn cares. Mandatories are missed/ignored/un-enforced all the time, why should this one be any different?

[aboutfkntime]

Wow I thought you just learned the difference between the Abcs, and ESPN, scene, ring, tbrb, but no such luck. Being that dumb is a special talent. Sorry bud, you're beyond help

Well, I am learning not to feed the troll

The best way for you to improve your boxing knowledge and develop some instincts for the game would be to get off your fat ass and go lace em up.

But ok, keep reading your lil boxing ****zines, whatever.

[daggum]

maidana still living off giving an old mayweather a tough go of it. very sad. maidana is just this era's wilfredo rivera. the guy is **** mediocre but floyd fans are pretending he's some sort of great fighter because he gave their god a good fight. the equivalent would be ggg fans pretending monroe was some sort of great slick boxer. no one would do that...well maybe that guy with golovkin as his name but nm

[Raonic]

FACT: holding a belt does not make you a champion

Then what the **** are championship belt for if holding a belt doesn't make you a champion?

[i'm a fun haver]

Absolutely, he should have dropped the belt !

But then you went full ******.

FACT: holding a belt does not make you a champion

Everyone knows that !

Well, holding a middleweight belt does not make you a middleweight.

Cotto weighs 153, so good luck with that silliness.

Luckily, Hypekin will likely get that fight if he agrees to Mr Cotto's request.

Should Mr Cotto beat Canelo, that is.

Oh, I believe in referring to a genuine A-side as " Mr "

And Canelo is not a MW, he is obviously a JMW.

Seriously, what middleweight weighs 155 ?

Casual fan logic right there.

And as far as the mandatory goes? So what, who fkn cares. Mandatories are missed/ignored/un-enforced all the time, why should this one be any different?

Canelo and GGG are roughly the same size in the ring on fight night.
Is Cotto too small for Canelo too then?

[aboutfkntime]

Lol. How can someone be a JMW fighter when he fights above the JMW limit?

Just because he can make JMW doesn't mean he's a JMW if he's not fighting in that division. There's a reason they strip you of titles if you go over the limit. It's because you CAN'T be classified as a champion in that division because you don't actually fall in the rules of that division.

That's literally like basics 101.

The classification of what fight class fighter you are is based on your weight. Even if you can make multiple weight classes, the weight class you obviously fight in the most is clearly the weight class you fight in.

The EXACT definition of a division fighter is a fighter who fights at or below the division limit. That's why they don't allow fighters who weigh over the weight limit fight for titles. Because they don't meet the qualification. A JMW fighter is someone who fights at 154 (the limit) or under. So even if he can make 154, the fact that Canelo fights above that limit means he falls in the next division category, which is MW.

He fights at 155 out of entitlement, just like he fought at 150 when he was campaigning at welter.

I have no idea why Canelo doesn't cop more flak from his fans.

It is fkn unprofessional imho.

I wil leave it there, because I cant be fcuked explaining the situation to you..... I have explained it a number of times already.

If interested, perhaps google..... Chepo Reynose Canelo 150, or similar.

They are doing it to preserve Canelos career.

They are correct, but it is still unprofessional.

But you are missing the point man..... seriously, what MW weighs 155 ?

[HeroBando]

Then what the **** are championship belt for if holding a belt doesn't make you a champion?

The guy is a piece of work, NSB's most naturally gifted at ******ity. The RJJ of imbeciles.

[aboutfkntime]

Then what the **** are championship belt for if holding a belt doesn't make you a champion?

That is a real dumb question.

Do you know that there are four major sanctioning bodies ?

How can there be 4 champions dude ?

A belt does not make a champion, a champion makes the belt.

[aboutfkntime]

Canelo and GGG are roughly the same size in the ring on fight night.
Is Cotto too small for Canelo too then?

Fight-night weight is completely irrelevant.

Boxing uses divisions for a reason..... and, the total amount of conditioning and functional muscle-mass that will be available to you during the fight is determined at the official weigh-in..... rehydration weight or water-weight will not help in that regard and can even be detrimental.

Canelo weighs 155.