Comments Thread For: USADA Fires Back at Hauser Over Multiple Allegations

[imperial1]

My assumption is you aren't qualified to judge the things you disagreed with. The reality is the person on hand during this incident deemed Mayweather IV worthy vs drink a glass of water worthy. If you disagree I think you need better evidence than 100% of the reasoning I'm seeing people say over & over here like "you can't be dehydrated unless you lose x lbs" or that people can tell if Floyd had diarrhea, a fever or what color his piss was by a picture of him at the weigh in or suggesting the IV was for masking PEDs despite a test being done before he received the IV that would have caught PEDs if they were in his system.

The logic & claims being suggested are wayyyyyyyy less logical than the situation some are suggesting doesn't make sense to them despite them knowing very few details about the finer points of this dehydration diagnosis & ignoring many facts that are out in the open.

The person on hand deemed Mayweather IV worthy

750 ml worthy huh ? Wow ..So you know for certain he needed that much fluids when there is scientific evidence that states hydrating orally is much more helpful unless under specific medical,conditions of which you don't know if he even suffered from !


30 days before weigh in he was 150 what was he dehydrated from when he weighed in at only 146 ?


Now Mayweather fans are hydration experts

[DoktorSleepless]

That question obviously occured to USADA as well, so they tested him before/after to make sure that the IV was not being used for inappropriate reasons.

It wasn't exactly like this. The impression people are getting is that they collected two full samples, and tested both for the sake of comparison. What actually happened is they only collected a single full sample. USADA tested Mayweather twice, but both were only They monitored him "until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather." What they did was combine the before and after samples into a single full sample. (The USADA statement doesn't say they combined the samples explicitly , but you can infer it from the the quotes)

This isn't describing the Mayweather's case specifically, but here's the procedure for what happens when a partial sample is collected.

The Athlete's first attempt to provide a sample produced less than the minimum requirement of 90ml of urine (this is known as a "partial sample"). The Athlete therefore placed the collection vessel on the floor, adjusted her clothes and placed the cover on the container. She was then told to wait in the waiting room. At this point, the DCOA was required to deal with the Athlete's partial sample in accordance with Annex F of the WADA International Standards of Testing ("IST") and the partial sample collection procedure contained in the 2011 IAAF AntiDoping Regulations (the "2011 Regulations"). CAS 2014/A/3487

The relevant provisions of Annex F and the 2011 Regulations are set out in detail below (see paragraphs 72 and 82-83). In short, the Regulations require an athlete who has provided a partial sample to select special partial sample collection equipment. Having done so, the athlete should then be instructed to open the relevant equipment, pour the partial sample into the container and seal it as directed by the DCOA. The DCOA should then verify, in full view of the athlete, that the container has been properly sealed. While waiting to provide an additional sample, the athlete should remain under continuous observation and be given the opportunity to hydrate. Once the athlete is able to provide an additional sample, they should be provided with a fresh collection vessel and instructed to provide a sample into that container. Once sufficient urine has been collected, the DCO and athlete should check the integrity of the seal on the partial sample vessel containing the first insufficient sample. Any irregularity in that seal should be recorded. The DCO must then direct the athlete to break the seal to that container and to combine the samples.

I can't for the love of god remember the link to the article I read yesterday, but the description of the scene was that Mayweather had trouble pissing the first time. So it's possible the first partial sample (the before IV sample) was only a few drops of piss. And the second partial sample (the after IV sample) made up the bulk of the final full sample. According to the USADA statement, Mayweather was informed he was being tested at 1:45 PM. The testing process was not finished until 8:15 PM. Does this not seem odd to anyone else? Maywather couldn't piss, so they let him take a potential masking agent/method, and then finish testing him 5-6 hours later?

So the only reason USADA tested Mayweather twice was because he couldn't piss the first time. It was not because they were trying to be thorough and make sure the IV didn't have an effect on the urine sample.

[Eff Pandas]

The person on hand deemed Mayweather IV worthy

750 ml worthy huh ? Wow ..So you know for certain he needed that much fluids when there is scientific evidence that states hydrating orally is much more helpful unless under specific medical,conditions of which you don't know if he even suffered from !


30 days before weigh in he was 150 what was he dehydrated from when he weighed in at only 146 ?


Now Mayweather fans are hydration experts

Well whats more logical? That everyone is IN on it from Mayweather, his team, the NSAC, the USADA & WADA (none of these orgs have claimed Floyd did anything wrong so they must be IN on it right?) or that Mayweather had a legit issue that required a IV + a guy who almost lost his seat for the biggest fight in boxing history over Mayweather & who's written several anti-Mayweather articles has written another one?

You gotta believe some epic level of conspiracy is going on here to not go with the latter version of events. And fair enough if you think that, the world needs crazy people too.

[Calabis]

Damage control. Lmfao. They don't fool nobody. Corrupt organization

Except Kevin Iole reported this exact thing back on May 23, yet USADA and Iole are liars....Hauser is the truth lol

[aboutfkntime]

Two things.....

1) the supposed improprieties regarding the process
2) the involvement of USADA and NSAC

1) People need to get a grip and use some common-sense..... even if you believe that the process did not take place as per the textbook, so fkn what, life very rarely does.

The point is, the appropriate authories BOTH investigated, and BOTH came to the exact same conclusion..... so if you disagree, hard luck, you are fcuked.

During the buildup for Pac/Rios, VADA tested Rios without proper collection utensils, they used a dirty hotel room glass, and they tested him in full view of the public.

Does that sound like a valid protocol ?

This is not a USADA/VADA issue, I am sure VADA are fine.

Get a grip, a process is a living document, mistakes will be made, lessons will be learnt, processes/documentation will be improved.

The point is, both USADA and NSAC have investigated/confirmed that the IV was not used for inappropriate reasons.

Move on.

2) I believe that it could be possible to bribe 1 or 2 people, possibly even 1 or 2 people from each organisation - although I think that would be highly unlikely..... but for you conspiracy theorists to be correct, not only would Mayweather have to bribe USADA as an entity, and not only would he have to bribe NSAC as an entity..... but he would also have to bribe them to work together in a conspiracy to defraud the world in direct contrast to the mission statement of both organisations.

Seriously, have you any idea how totally fkn absurd that sounds ?

Dr Evil himself couldn't pull that shht off.

[IR0NFIST]

I thought NSAC follows WADA rules? WADA gives 3 weeks to submit a TUE from the day whatever a TUE was needed for was used. Get your own story straight ffs.

The whole reasoning for a TUE is to cover yourself if your test comes back dirty so there is no need for it to be submitted before you fight. In this case its not even a PED its a procedure that requiring a TUE thus its of even less importance to submit a TUE cuz nothing is even gonna show up dirty so if Mayweather was really trying to be sneaky he never calls the USADA alerting them to this situation & certainly never submits a TUE for something that he'd never be caught for once it was done.

Cmon man lol. This is getting embarrassing with the lack of brains being used.

You're so misinformed, I almost feel bad for you.

First off, all TUE applications must be completed and received by USADA at least twenty-one (21) days in advance of any use prohibited in sport. Floyd did the exact opposite, he took the IVs and then proceeded to apply for a TUE.

According to your logic, TUEs are used to cover up positive test results. If that's the case, then you just unintentionally admitted that Floyd was using IVs to mask banned substances.

[aboutfkntime]

It wasn't exactly like this. The impression people are getting is that they collected two full samples, and tested both for the sake of comparison. What actually happened is they only collected a single full sample. USADA tested Mayweather twice, but both were only They monitored him "until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather." What they did was combine the before and after samples into a single full sample. (The USADA statement doesn't say they combined the samples explicitly , but you can infer it from the the quotes)

This isn't describing the Mayweather's case specifically, but here's the procedure for what happens when a partial sample is collected.



I can't for the love of god remember the link to the article I read yesterday, but the description of the scene was that Mayweather had trouble pissing the first time. So it's possible the first partial sample (the before IV sample) was only a few drops of piss. And the second partial sample (the after IV sample) made up the bulk of the final full sample. According to the USADA statement, Mayweather was informed he was being tested at 1:45 PM. The testing process was not finished until 8:15 PM. Does this not seem odd to anyone else? Maywather couldn't piss, so they let him take a potential masking agent/method, and then finish testing him 5-6 hours later?

So the only reason USADA tested Mayweather twice was because he couldn't piss the first time. It was not because they were trying to be thorough and make sure the IV didn't have an effect on the urine sample.

Aah interesting.

Good post ^^

Not the first time that happened.

Years back, during 24/7, the testers turned up and had the same problem..... Mayweather couldn't piss, and the testers had to wait for hours.

Interestingly, they followed Mayweather every time he left the room, didn't let him out of their sight.

[Divine Hammer]

Well, USADA and NSAC investigated Mayweathers activities.

I dont see any relevance to your analogy.

Funnily enough, in my country the Police Complaints Authority, is the Police

If you have a complaint about the police, you go see them.

USADA is one of the crooks u dunce. they gave floyd a tue when he didn't meet the requirements. but why did they do that??????? nsac originally was very upset and said it was unforgiveable what usada and floyd did, but now they're fine all of a sudden??? hmmm bribe money?? yuppppp.

usada and nsac are PART OF THE PROBLEM. THEY'RE PART OF THE CORRUPTION.

[Eff Pandas]

Except Kevin Iole reported this exact thing back on May 23, yet USADA and Iole are liars....Hauser is the truth lol

Thomas "The Truth" Hauser lol.

Its like people don't know this guy is a piece of ****. Go look at all the **** he used to talk about HBO back in the day. Than magically he gets a job with HBO doing....nothing I guess....I can't recall anything I've really seen him do with HBO, but he stops talking about them so thats alright by HBO I'm sure.

Now he's talking about PBC & Mayweather all the time. PBC & Mayweather could probably solve this problem the easiest by having Hauser do nothing for them. I'm ashamed I purchased his Ali book back in the day for the piece of **** he is & probably was previously. Probably was talking **** about Ali back in the day & parlayed that into the book deal following the zebra's don't change their stripes saying.

[aboutfkntime]

You're so misinformed, I almost feel bad for you.

First off, all TUE applications must be completed and received by USADA at least twenty-one (21) days in advance of any use prohibited in sport. Floyd did the exact opposite, he took the IVs and then proceeded to apply for a TUE.

According to your logic, TUEs are used to cover up positive test results. If that's the case, then you just unintentionally admitted that Floyd was using IVs to mask banned substances.

I dont think thats true. How couldn you possibly provide 21 days notice for a medical emergency, including dehydration?