Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[AllEyesOpen]

the question is very simple, VADA or USADA?

which do you prefer?

or i will assume Floyd's recommended anti doping agency (USADA).

I told you which, you just have to think. It's ok i know it's hard for you.

[Spoon23]

based on the IV infusion apparently not being a medical emergency (in which case there should have been a hospital admission, and over 50ml infusion allowable without a TUE), we can conclude that Floyd broke WADA code...and the IV was intended to mask or alter his biological blood values. And the USADA did not correctly uphold & enforce the WADA code, to which they are signatory. why USADA would only take urine samples before and after observing a procedure that potentially affects blood values.

'Nuff said.

[tangalog2200]

if you are out of this thread how did you know i was asking this question?

your alt told you?

and when i talked about Floyd fans in this thread you are out of it.

coz this thread meeans nothing to you.

i was asking slip, zaruko, sugar, all eyes closed and deadbrain.

oh by the way SHAME ON YOU

great! you got an all-star five up there...

awesome five!

[ADP02]

I know I've made my point when my post is ignored by the weak minded.

I answered many posts of yours. We are all waiting for one Floyd fan to come into this thread and have the courage to answer direct questions.

Go back a few threads. I posted many questions. Others have too.


Look, I will even post to counter that post of yours:
" Floyd/USADA had a contract ready where if Floyd requested a TUE and/or his tests came back positive for something that is in the prohibited list, it could be hidden under the rugs and nobody would know about it. Right?

What does this have to do with your post?
Well, if USADA can be used as a pawn by Floyd and can change things up, then USADA can have 4,000,000,000 pages of rules and regulations. It's only good as toilet paper. Floyd will use 3,999,999,999 pages to find where they can find a loophole and that is plan B.
Plan A? Like he tried, get USADA to get the opponent to sign a contract whereby Floyd can test positive and get away with it.

Oh, where were we? Oh yeah, lets see if you continue to have a weak mind. We are still waiting for a direct response ......... GO!




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[AllEyesOpen]

I answered many posts of yours. We are all waiting for one Floyd fan to come into this thread and have the courage to answer direct questions.

Go back a few threads. I posted many questions. Others have too.


Look, I will even post to counter that post of yours:
" Floyd/USADA had a contract ready where if Floyd used requested a TUE and/or came back positive, it could be hidden under the rugs and nobody would know about it. Right?

What does this have to do with your post?
Well, if USADA can be used as a pawn by Floyd and can change things up, then USADA can have 4,000,000,000 pages. It's only good as toilet paper. Floyd will use 3,999,999,999 pages to find where they can find a loophole and that is plan B.
Plan A? Like he tried, get USADA to get the opponent to sign a contract whereby Floyd can test positive and get away with it.

Oh, where were we? Oh yeah, lets see if you continue to have a weak mind. We are still waiting for a direct response ......... GO!

We addressed your post months ago, just because you keep copy/pasting it doesn't mean we have to answer it again.

The post i was talking about is the vada and their non-wada standards and lack of oversight. But it's ok just keep ignoring it. You guys didn't read the wada international standards why would you bother to read the vada guidelines.

[AllEyesOpen]

as the famous intellectual AllEyesclosed once said "I know I've made my point when my post is ignored by the weak minded"

Nice try but your argument is because Mayweather didn't provide the pact@rd brigade any documentation then he wasn't dehydrated, my point is that those who were involved did, which is why usada approved and Arum & TR didn't dispute it, but then again Mayweather owns Bob Arum too right?

[ADP02]

Up to this day Hauser's questions has not been answered. This damning question if yet unanswered are evidences in itself tsk tsk tsk.. USADA where are you? Shouldn't you guys sue Hauser by now?


Relating to section "2. Diagnosis"

1. Does Floyd have a documented medical history of chronic dehydration necessitating medical intervention & IV infusion?
2. Who was the treating physician? (I don't think Memo & Ariza have medical degrees; and I doubt the USADA reps were licensed MDs.)
3. Is Floyd & the USADA willing to show the copy of the TUE application? If so & they have nothing to hide, will the application clearly show the precise description of the clinical situation & specific medical indication for the IV infusion; the name of the treating physician; the ICD-10 code E86.0 or E87.1; and all the other relevant medical information listed in sub-section C?
4. Why was oral rehydration not a valid option? What was the existing co-morbidity that ruled it out as an option?


Relating to section "3. Medical best practice treatment"

1. Was Floyd experiencing a medical emergency? (He obviously was not under inpatient care, in which case the volume he infused would not have required a TUE, retroactive or not.)
2. What is the supporting evidence that no alternative treatment (i.e.--drinking orally) could have been used?
3. Who was the ordering physician, and who were the qualified medical personnel to perform the treatment?
4. Why wasn't the infusion done in an appropriate medical setting instead of at home?



There is a well-established body of scientific evidence
to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially

Floyd was also examined and certified to be fit to fight. Charts say that Floyd's condition is "normal". The examining doctor did not state that Floyd was severely dehydrated. Floyd didn't say it nor did he write it on the pre-fight form. Yet no investigation? What a joke.

Its not like NSAC doesn't do investigations for that kind of stuff. They were doing one for Manny who didn't even take anything that was on the prohibited list. Floyd did. Plus, for the piece de la resistance, NSAC said that the protocol used for Floyd was "UNACCEPTABLE".

[ADP02]

We addressed your post months ago, just because you keep copy/pasting it doesn't mean we have to answer it again.

The post i was talking about is the vada and their non-wada standards and lack of oversight. But it's ok just keep ignoring it. You guys didn't read the wada international standards why would you bother to read the vada guidelines.

I answered it bud. YOU ignored my post because it just shoots your logic down. Its a contract. USADA was used as a pawn. So that is what Floyd will say. "USADA sent it over to Manny and Manny agreed. Its all legit"

Like I said, its worthless when you can by-pass the rules. Not that hard to understand even for a Floyd fan.


You keep on saying that it was answered months ago. So it must be easy to C/P or use the "multi-quote" feature.

The truth is that YOU can't answer a DIRECT question because you would have to admit that it does NOT add up and its as su****ious as hell! That is as positive as you can get. The negative is that Floyd tried to cheat. .


Lets see you back it up or are you simple minded, as you said of others that do not respond to your questions. I did but you didn't like my response even though it makes sense and actually happened. You got a 2 for 1 deal.

[CJRock]

C'mon guys this whole scenario is bullcrap. The Mayweathers USADA & The NSAC along with Vegas boxing have all been in on this corruption up to their asses all along
They all should have been indicted by now & facing lifetime bans. They said boxing was corrupt in the 50's with the mob & mafia running it but its far worse today with corrupt commissions & drug testing agencies

[AllEyesOpen]

I answered it bud. YOU ignored my post because it just shoots your logic down. Its a contract. USADA was used as a pawn. So that is what Floyd will say. "USADA sent it over to Manny and Manny agreed. Its all legit"

Like I said, its worthless when you can by-pass the rules. Not that hard to understand even for a Floyd fan.


You keep on saying that it was answered months ago. So it must be easy to C/P or use the "multi-quote" feature.

The truth is that YOU can't answer a DIRECT question because you would have to admit that it does NOT add up and its as su****ious as hell! That is as positive as you can get. The negative is that Floyd tried to cheat. .


Lets see you back it up or are you simple minded, as you said of others that do not respond to your questions. I did but you didn't like my response even though it makes sense and actually happened. You got a 2 for 1 deal.

Sadly you can't have an intelligent discussion with the ignorant. I'd love to see evidence that Mayweather requested anything be swept "under the rug", as a matter if fact usada stated it was Pacquiao who requested changes to the contract but again that's cause they work for Mayweather right?

Once again, there can be no true discussion unless both sides are willing to change. Im more than willing to accept there may have been ulterior motives for Mayweather's tue, but there's no facts to prove this is the case

You will never admit or accept that Mayweather just might have been dehydrated which is why your a waste of time.