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    Still nobody is capable of providing the simple plot as to how you mask ''illegal substances'' for Floyd's testing.

    There are only the following scenarios as to why:

    1). Tests are negative. Never has there been a situation for an event with May & Pac testing that can provide an example as to how one would ''dope'' via 750ml.

    2). There are methods to 1). If Conte or any expert provides a scenario as to how to do this effectively then it becomes a paradoxical contradiction in sports, because a FACT has proven a definite method over anti-doping techniques, and thus, would supersede any rule and change the rules for WADA's code. This scenario would also detail any athlete's ability to mask ''something'' within 24hrs over the most detailed type of anti-dope testing. Hence, ''anti-dope'' testing.

    3). Without substantial evidence or proof for blood results, Hauser is challenging WADA accredited lab testing, which also includes accredited laboratories that even VADA complies to.

    4). If it were an actual story, it is poor journalism from various angles not being covered, especially the losing side. The best bet to stir controversy is to hire a third party writer and public domain to stir voice.

    5). Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Hauser's priority to discredit. The highest paid athlete, the p4p king in boxing for years, and undisputed and bonafide boxer... Same goes with Top Rank. They would try their upmost best to discredit Floyd at all costs.

    6). This is the best fiction one can do in the essence of racially motivated targeting.

    7.) Just as people say there was 15 times more the ''amount'' is the same as the amount not present in sports journalism as a story. This isn't a random athlete. It's Floyd Mayweather Jr. Media journalism didn't start this year...
    Sadly, ''15 times'' the amount and referring to fluid body weight.... it surprises me how many people are suckered from one writer's approach. That social experiment is a prime example on how people eat politics for any global or local case in news gathering.
    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 10-17-2015, 05:35 AM.

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      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
      Still nobody is capable of providing the simple plot as to how you mask ''illegal substances'' for Floyd's testing.

      There are only the following scenarios as to why:

      1). Tests are negative. Never has there been a situation for an event with May & Pac testing that can provide an example as to how one would ''dope'' via 750ml.

      2). There are methods to 1). If Conte or any expert provides a scenario as to how to do this effectively then it becomes a paradoxical contradiction in sports, because a FACT has proven a definite method over anti-doping techniques, and thus, would supersede any rule and change the rules for WADA's code. This scenario would also detail any athlete's ability to mask ''something'' within 24hrs over the most detailed type of anti-dope testing. Hence, ''anti-dope'' testing.

      3). Without substantial evidence or proof for blood results, Hauser is challenging WADA accredited lab testing, which also includes accredited laboratories that even VADA complies to.

      4). If it were an actual story, it is poor journalism from various angles not being covered, especially the losing side. The best bet to stir controversy is to hire a third party writer and public domain to stir voice.

      5). Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Hauser's priority to discredit. The highest paid athlete, the p4p king in boxing for years, and undisputed and bonafide boxer... Same goes with Top Rank. They would try their upmost best to discredit Floyd at all costs.

      6). This is the best fiction one can do in the essence of racially motivated targeting.

      7.) Just as people say there was 15 times more the ''amount'' is the same as the amount not present in sports journalism as a story. This isn't a random athlete. It's Floyd Mayweather Jr. Media journalism didn't start this year...
      Sadly, ''15 times'' the amount and referring to fluid body weight.... it surprises me how many people are suckered from one writer's approach. That social experiment is a prime example on how people eat politics for any global or local case in news gathering.
      I will never forgive the colored people for framing Lance Armstrong as a drug cheat just because he was the most decorated and victorious white dude in the history of bike riding

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        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Maybe you are being sarcastic with that poster. Not sure.

        Floyd, the A side, was allowed to twist their rules to fit his needs. This is known.

        Secondly, there have been critics of USADA's handling of boxing. Hauser, Conte and many others including NSAC!


        The thing is that if you check what WADA states, Floyd should not have had an IV because WADA states that even IF Floyd was crazy enough to do a long grueling intense workout, the preferred method to rehydrate would still be orally.

        Keep in mind that even Wada knows that dehydration for an athlete happens right after a tough long workout. Now add that to what Floyd used as an excuse. Meaning, there was no alternative explanation used by Floyd besides "workout" and "giving blood".
        So, lets be real for a second. Floyd wasn't even doing a tough long workout at that point(May 1st). It would actually hurt Floyd not help Floyd by doing that and we know that Floyd is no rookie when it comes to training.

        Plus, there was the NSAC doctor who examined Floyd at that point in time and did not see Floyd dehydrated. Maybe that is why Floyd avoided stating that he was dehydrated on his prefight form and/or didn't state that to the NSAC doctor. The NSAC doctor would have disagreed with Floyd's form or conclude "Your lucky Floyd because I can clear you of that diagnosis. You are no longer dehydrated"





        WADA states the following:
        "[B]The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate.[/B]
        It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion."












        .

        I was not being sarcastic. Can you guess what my vote was on the poll???

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          Originally posted by Rath View Post
          we both agree that Pac lost May 2nd.

          you are barking at the wrong tree, i am not a Pac fan like most Floyd fans believed i am.

          it is easier to debate, irritates, annoys, insults, floyd fans using Pac than any other fighter. you as a human behaviorist should know that.

          how do you think i would fare if i am a judah fan?

          now exactly what is your point?
          I agree with you. PAC lost. I am not barking up the wrong tree either. I am urinating on it. I am also barking at the moon, as a wolf should. Guess how I voted on the Poll???

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            Originally posted by ReIoaded View Post
            I will never forgive the colored people for framing Lance Armstrong as a drug cheat just because he was the most decorated and victorious white dude in the history of bike riding
            You should check out Floyd's pics in Hauser's articles. I would love to hear anyone's explanations for those pics, from bulbous exaggerated framing and overly saturated sharpening. They are purposely portrayed pics in depicting classic coonage.

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              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
              Still nobody is capable of providing the simple plot as to how you mask ''illegal substances'' for Floyd's testing.

              There are only the following scenarios as to why:

              1). Tests are negative. Never has there been a situation for an event with May & Pac testing that can provide an example as to how one would ''dope'' via 750ml.

              2). There are methods to 1). If Conte or any expert provides a scenario as to how to do this effectively then it becomes a paradoxical contradiction in sports, because a FACT has proven a definite method over anti-doping techniques, and thus, would supersede any rule and change the rules for WADA's code. This scenario would also detail any athlete's ability to mask ''something'' within 24hrs over the most detailed type of anti-dope testing. Hence, ''anti-dope'' testing.

              3). Without substantial evidence or proof for blood results, Hauser is challenging WADA accredited lab testing, which also includes accredited laboratories that even VADA complies to.

              4). If it were an actual story, it is poor journalism from various angles not being covered, especially the losing side. The best bet to stir controversy is to hire a third party writer and public domain to stir voice.

              5). Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Hauser's priority to discredit. The highest paid athlete, the p4p king in boxing for years, and undisputed and bonafide boxer... Same goes with Top Rank. They would try their upmost best to discredit Floyd at all costs.

              6). This is the best fiction one can do in the essence of racially motivated targeting.

              7.) Just as people say there was 15 times more the ''amount'' is the same as the amount not present in sports journalism as a story. This isn't a random athlete. It's Floyd Mayweather Jr. Media journalism didn't start this year...
              Sadly, ''15 times'' the amount and referring to fluid body weight.... it surprises me how many people are suckered from one writer's approach. That social experiment is a prime example on how people eat politics for any global or local case in news gathering.

              Many things sound great in isolation. When they are unchallenged. Many of us, my self included are capable of self delusion. Since this is an IV thread, I wait for the courts to decide. But my gut feeling is the whole thing stinks. But I don't know how many other fighters applied for a TUE after the fact?

              I think because hauser is not a doctor, his statements may be inaccurate. I am not a doctor. I think this thread is losing steam little by little. One guy talking about beibers dongle??? But back to the IV, I hope it is investigated completely to either cast doubt on Floyd or vindicate him. I do believe he brought a lot of this on himself.
              Best Regards,
              Zaroku

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                Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                Many things sound great in isolation. When they are unchallenged. Many of us, my self included are capable of self delusion. Since this is an IV thread, I wait for the courts to decide. But my gut feeling is the whole thing stinks. But I don't know how many other fighters applied for a TUE after the fact?

                I think because hauser is not a doctor, his statements may be inaccurate. I am not a doctor. I think this thread is losing steam little by little. One guy talking about beibers dongle??? But back to the IV, I hope it is investigated completely to either cast doubt on Floyd or vindicate him. I do believe he brought a lot of this on himself.
                Best Regards,
                Zaroku
                Sure, another picture, as my first insinuations for a video I made, is that this is literally an anti-doping agency war. The variables this past year suggests a stronghold for HBO's favoritism towards VADA. This has been apparent for years. Even in Pac vs. Morales 1, where it was stated on air the exclusion of Margaret Goodman as a ring doc, and behold, a rogue doctor walks in the ring to check Pac and then stalls the round in the most awkward fashion. You can even hear Roy Jones Jr. insinuate corruption and the glove dialogue within that bout.

                This is all a sham for HBO to promote VADA as much up to the point that Floyd becomes enemy #1 because of USADA.

                Easy breezy.

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                  Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                  Sure, another picture, as my first insinuations for a video I made, is that this is literally an anti-doping agency war. The variables this past year suggests a stronghold for HBO's favoritism towards VADA. This has been apparent for years. Even in Pac vs. Morales 1, where it was stated on air the exclusion of Margaret Goodman as a ring doc, and behold, a rogue doctor walks in the ring to check Pac and then stalls the round in the most awkward fashion. You can even hear Roy Jones Jr. insinuate corruption and the glove dialogue within that bout.

                  This is all a sham for HBO to promote VADA as much up to the point that Floyd becomes enemy #1 because of USADA.

                  Easy breezy.
                  Thanks! Best regards!
                  Zaroku

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                    Hauser lost credibility when he showed his ass by saying Haymon should be hanged.

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                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Hauser lost credibility when he showed his ass by saying Haymon should be hanged.
                      Meh..........

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