Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[The Big Dunn]

Sure. reflect, deflect, ..... its just a difference of one letter.

just like maggot and f@ggot.

[Slip Stream]

How come the BWAA or Ring ****zine haven't said anything about De La Hoya's dehydration against Pac. You can find videos of Roach on seconds out where he brags that Dela Hoya was dehydrated and he saw the IV marks on his arm, he then goes on to literally saying there's nothing wrong or illegal about it?

You have to understand, De La Hoya lost, so it was a non-issue, but had he won he would have been labeled a steroid cheat by Pac's followers. Their hunger to invalidate Floyd's career is as humorous as it is palpable. This is why I can't take these guys seriously. They sort of remind of of the shifting focus of the Benghazi Special Select Committee that initially was supposed to be finding out what happened to four dead Americans but instead ended up asking questions about Secretary Clinton's emails. Similarly Pac's delusional fans were focused on slow motion videos, corrupt judges and ***** on a goblin's ass until SURPRISE, an IV is now responsible for their god's loss.

Any port in a storm....

[boxinghead530]

Thank you. My gut feeling post. Not like the posts where I pound PAC fans. If any PAC fan would have approached me logically, as you have,
I personally think Floyd's ex post facto TUE is bull crap. Invalidating his 8 rds to 4 win over PAC man!

I think you kinda get me, ask me the right question, don't come with generic diatribe and I promise to give you my honest answer.

This is why I feel you get me in some way. I join you. I must add this disclaimer.

I bet my money. Hard earned cash! Castillo 1 taught me that even if Floyd should lose in the ring, if he is not knocked out, he wins. I lost money, betting against him. I hate losing money. Postol korned me, my mistake for underestimating him & betting against him. Boxing is dirty, and I know it, but I always ask myself two questions?
1. Can I change it, can I clean up boxing???
2. How can I make money betting boxing????

Floyd is now hanging out with true players, warren buffet, etc, guys that have donated more money than he has ever made. Big big boss players. Hope he learns from them, only $$$green matters, sad as that is to state.

I join you. A cheat is a cheat.

My question, how can we change it????
Best regards
zaroku

P.s. I voted
It was to make sure no one else was doping so HE could

Well as far as what I can do to clean up the sport? Well im just a 49 year old guy with no power in the industry so I cant really do anything. But one thing as a fan I can do is bash, expose, come down hard on these guys in forums like these. There are some in the industry at are interested in forums like these so as long as guys like us can continue to put the cheaters on blast and more of us do it. Our words can be heard.

[boxinghead530]

Really, it's all the same? I thought "cheating" had nothing to do wih PEDs! So, I ask again, how did Floyd do it?! How did Floyd mask it?! Don't forget to provide the substance as well! Popcorn ready.

Have you been following what this thread is about then you would know what im saying. As I said, there is way way way more evidence that he did something.(And if you look at it in an objective way you would know) But dude is dirty and more than likely has been dirty for the past few years.

Tell me this, the photos from when Floyd was in his mid twenties that people posted on here and then the photos that were posted of him now. Why is he just so much more shredded and rip now in his late 30's almost 40 than when he was in his mid 20's?

Look I don't think he is the only dirty guy. I think Pac was dirty too at one point. I bash them both. I don't have biases toward anyone.

[Zaroku]

Well as far as what I can do to clean up the sport? Well im just a 49 year old guy with no power in the industry so I cant really do anything. But one thing as a fan I can do is bash, expose, come down hard on these guys in forums like these. There are some in the industry at are interested in forums like these so as long as guys like us can continue to put the cheaters on blast and more of us do it. Our words can be heard.

Keep keeping me real brother!
Same team.
I will try not to lash out at others.
Best regards.
Zaroku
Btw, we are about the same age young.
My wife told me I lost that new car smell years ago.

She cracks me up.

Peace out!

[Lester Tutor]

You have to understand, De La Hoya lost, so it was a non-issue, but had he won he would have been labeled a steroid cheat by Pac's followers. Their hunger to invalidate Floyd's career is as humorous as it is palpable. This is why I can't take these guys seriously. They sort of remind of of the shifting focus of the Benghazi Special Select Committee that initially was supposed to be finding out what happened to four dead Americans but instead ended up asking questions about Secretary Clinton's emails. Similarly Pac's delusional fans were focused on slow motion videos, corrupt judges and ***** on a goblin's ass until SURPRISE, an IV is now responsible for their god's loss.

Any port in a storm....

Yeah. I know I was addressesing those questions rhetorically. It's to educate on conflicts of interest for people to see the bigger picture. Yes, had De La Hoya won, any other and Roach would've said something totally different. Sergio Martinez agreed to fight Pac at 150! But Top Rank only wanted Sergio at 147 and maxed to 150. Martinez said fack them literally.

Therefore that 3 weight difference of a clause is a coincidence for De La Hoya's gaining only 2lbs? The fact that De La Hoya agreed to that and his bitterness over the years losing to Floyd is why I lost respect for De La Hoya. Especially for the fact that Floyd has had 12 or 13 Ring Fights vs Pac's 6 within the same decade time frame. Yeah, it's obvious Ring would prefer Pac over Floyd... [sarcasm]

To summarize Ring Mag writers cant publish anything against De La Hoya. Job Security. :P

[boxinghead530]

Keep keeping me real brother!
Same team.
I will try not to lash out at others.
Best regards.
Zaroku
Btw, we are about the same age young.
My wife told me I lost that new car smell years ago.

She cracks me up.

Peace out!

Right on my boxing friend.

My wife tells me the opposite. She says Im getting better as I get older, but I just tell her it's the viagra I take. Lol. See I'm just like Floyd and pac, I'm enhanced too. Lol

[Lester Tutor]

Have you been following what this thread is about then you would know what im saying. As I said, there is way way way more evidence that he did something.(And if you look at it in an objective way you would know) But dude is dirty and more than likely has been dirty for the past few years.

Tell me this, the photos from when Floyd was in his mid twenties that people posted on here and then the photos that were posted of him now. Why is he just so much more shredded and rip now in his late 30's almost 40 than when he was in his mid 20's?

Look I don't think he is the only dirty guy. I think Pac was dirty too at one point. I bash them both. I don't have biases toward anyone.

Really, so PED's provide intuitive advantages in combat? Gee, I thought the Mayweather family knew something about boxing, and perhaps influence a little toddler Floyd falling in love with his family soort.

But I guess to you, Pac has the same circumstances as Floyd.

My friend, take a hike.

[boxinghead530]

Really, so PED's provide intuitive advantages in combat? Gee, I thought the Mayweather family knew something about boxing, and perhaps influence a little toddler Floyd falling in love with his family soort.

But I guess to you, Pac has the same circumstances as Floyd.

My friend, take a hike.

Fanboy open your eyes. You don't like boxing, you only like Floyd plain and simple. Be gone now

[North Star]

Fanboy open your eyes. You don't like boxing, you only like Floyd plain and simple. Be gone now

People like that are really not worth engaging with. They are trying to turn this issue into some sort of vindictive tactic by Hauser because Manny lost the fight. Had Manny won the fight, this would still be a giant issue with regards to the sport. Who won or who lost doesn't matter. All that matters, is what actions took place and how they were against the rules.