Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Spoon23]

Stick to funny meme,

This is a straw man arguement!
Look it up!

Just post funny stuff! Learn about logistic fallacies!

Thanks fellow boxing fan!

No hard feelings. I was just playing with you. I kinda put you in the list of people I don't take seriously in here. The kind that i don't waste my time debating with, But we can still talk casually. Like what i'm doing now. enjoy your alts buddy. Cheers!

[justicia liga]

Just for clarity on the urine sampling that day; Mayweather gave a PARTIAL urine sample before the IV infusion and much later he gave a PARTIAL urine sample after the IV infusion.

The 2 partial urine samples weren't tested individually but combined and the resulting urine was the one that was tested.

USADA’s Detailed Correction to: Can Boxing Trust USADA?

"... Mr. Mayweather provided PARTIAL urine samples to USADA BOTH PRIOR TO AND FOLLOWING the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on
May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the
World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative. "

[GTTofAK]

it now looks like he cheated juan on the scales cause he didnt know what he was doing back then (he used peds and couldnt get the weight off)

Yep steroids cause you to hold water. Floyd like most noobs thought that the longer he continued the steroids up to the fight the better. He hadn't yet learned that you get your best performance, strength and speed, after you have quit and shed the water weight.

[Zaroku]

According to Floyd's medical form, he wasn't suffering from a serious medical condition such as "severe dehydration", and didn't receive any IV injections. There's no reason for him to exclude those important details unless, of course, he was using the IVs for a purpose other than "rehydration". At least Pacquiao's medical form listed the NSAIDs he was taking that hinted towards a pre-fight injury. Oddly enough, Floyd didn't seem to want anyone knowing that he took an excess of 750 ml of saline (roughly 15 times the WADA limit) a day before the fight.

The plot thickens...

Foilfist, I don't get the jist of your thickening plot?? An unauthorized test only entity gave permission to Floyd, while the other group that determines fouls didn't?


Is this analogous to the guys that move & measure the position of the football in the NFL, suddenly making pass interference calls at the 1 yard line??!

Great analogy right? Hated, but never faded.

Is that what you had said???

Come on bon qui qui, from mad tv.

Look it up! Is that what you had said????

[Zaroku]

Yes an investigation is needed but guess what? So many goofs have occurred that it will be nearly impossible to know the truth. Look at Lance Armstrong. He was put under the microscope and investigated. Not until his teammates came clean and more importantly, Lance came clean can we know.

The cheaters with money and connections are several steps ahead of the testers. The testers need to first find out what the cheaters are currently doing then try to formulate a good test. By then, only some cheaters get caught. The rest see what's going on and move to the next thing.

The NSAC said that Floyd MONEY Mayweather is clean without an investigation required. Floyd fans will use that to say "see?" but if you are objective, it brings up a red flag! Why? For one, the NSAC was in disagreement with at least what they said just a few days earlier! What changed? Imagine, NSAC is in disagreement with the NSAC!!! Too funny!



Here is what NSAC said about all that:
“The TUE for Mayweather’s IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd’s house, not in a medical facility, and wasn’t brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I’ve made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did.?br />

Floyd didn't state in his prefight form about the IV and severe dehydration. NSAC doctors signed as well (no dehydration witnessed). So on that alone and from what we heard the NSAC say about Manny's (checkbox) they should have said that they will obviously investigate.


About evidence:
"4.  The Commission need not follow the rules of evidence that a court must follow. All evidence that the Commission determines to be relevant and submitted in accordance with the requirements of this chapter is admissible. If the Commission determines that the evidence is the sort of evidence on which responsible persons are accustomed to rely in the conduct of serious affairs, the Commission may use that evidence alone to support a finding of fact."

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Agree with you! In the Armstrong case, him coming back to try to cheat/win, and better tests to catch him brought him down. Plus, the AUSA using his being a poster child for the US Postal service all contributed to his down fall. Once the government brought his team mates in, and gave them immunity, they exposed what a fraud he was..

How can that happen to Floyd????

He needs to be investigated, but who has the legal authority to do so???

These are the questions that need to answered, and then we know how things should proceed. In a fair and legal court! Not here on this thread.

I fight back, because I hate seeing speculation becoming fact in the court of cyberspace opinion!

But keep those great post coming!

I actually read them, and agree with you 95 percent!

[ADP02]

Agree with you! In the Armstrong case, him coming back to try to cheat/win, and better tests to catch him brought him down. Plus, the AUSA using his being a poster child for the US Postal service all contributed to his down fall. Once the government brought his team mates in, and gave them immunity, they exposed what a fraud he was..

How can that happen to Floyd????

He needs to be investigated, but who has the legal authority to do so???

These are the questions that need to answered, and then we know how things should proceed. In a fair and legal court! Not here on this thread.

I fight back, because I hate seeing speculation becoming fact in the court of cyberspace opinion!

But keep those great post coming!

I actually read them, and agree with you 95 percent!

Your welcome.

With Lance, they targeted the weakest links because Lance was tough to bring down. Once his teammates confessed it was over.

[Zaroku]

No hard feelings. I was just playing with you. I kinda put you in the list of people I don't take seriously in here. The kind that i don't waste my time debating with, But we can still talk casually. Like what i'm doing now. enjoy your alts buddy. Cheers!

Thanks spooner!

That means not a lot to me, but I did appreciate your darth Vader meme!

I sent it to lots of friends!

I will alt your Alts, until you are Alted.

Do you think Marquez cheated? When he almost killed PAC???

Do you remember where you were when it happened???

Which loss was worse for you???

1. Bradley
2. Marquez
3. Mayweather

For me
Marquez = near death experience!
Bradley = PAC got robbed. I hate it!
Mayweather = lost a soaring match

But
Algierie = cherry pick
Rios = cherry pick
Bradley = justice
Mayweather = way beyond your one dimensional skills!

I want others to reply to me if they disagree!
If you agree let me know!

Convince me with your profound boxing knowledge!

[bigfo0t]

guys, guys, GUYS! leave floydie alone!

he nearly died from dehydration.. immediately after the weigh-in!

[Caught Square]

You need to understand that by May 1st,
- Floyd was not doing any strenuous activities. In fact, Floyd was tapering off his workouts for a while already.

If that's true then fair point.

Now factor in that Floyd has used several tricks that Lance Armstrong used:
- Delay completion of testing by USADA for 6.5 hours on several occasions.
- Used an IV.
- Vampire facials (possible blood transfusions in Canelo fight)
- Sign fight contract at the last possible moment and therefore delaying testing.

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1) When were these 'several occasions'? the only time I heard/saw this was on the Mosley 24/7 when he couldn't piss because he was dehyrated, how ironic eh?

2) Ok so he used a 'trick' with the vampire facial for the Canelo fight and waits until the last minute to sign so he can delay testing yet the Canelo fight was announced very early (the same MONTH as his fight with Guerrero). If he was concerned about delaying testing after this trick of the vampire facial why was this fight announced so early?

[Zaroku]

Your mistaken. Rumor has it after the weigh-in which we all know was a day before the fight. Floyd was rushed out of the event through a stretcher due to severe dehydration. He was so dehydrated he couldn't drink from a bottle. So the paramedics rushed him to his home for some IVS..

Some say the story didn't add up since the hospital is where you rush someone who is severely sick and in need of emergency help, but instead he was rushed to his home only to find a sufficient amount of IVS ready to be inserted to Floyd's blood stream.

The next day. Floyd was fine and was ready to fight. It was magical.

Nope, you are mistaken if you think rumors or alluding to others saying things actually constitue any factual evidence to create the foundation of the proof you seek to establish, is fundamentally flawed.

Bring your A game!

Rumor has it, and some say???

Both inadmissible in a court of law!
Where do you guys get these trite cliche statements that are meaningless? Look up both words please!

Bring your A game without trying to preface your statements with commonly overused & misused idiomatic expressions.