GGG didn't win the title in the ring, he was elevated to champ. Doesn't this mean even if he does defend his title more he should have an asterix by the record?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostThe record stands at 14
The only record Hopkins has is being the oldest fighter to win a lineal title amd win major titles
Anyone who considers Hopkins the record holder of title defenses is just trying to inflate his resume or simply DKSAB
Monzon beat Nino Benvenuti who won the Val Barker award in the same Olympics Ali competed, became a hall of famer and the lineage he had can be traced
Hopkins fought Sergundo Mercado twice to win the IBF trinket and has 20 defenses of it.....lineal title defenses he has like 6-7
GGG didn't even beat the champion for his belt....He didn't fight Geale or Sturm they gave him a world title
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Originally posted by wildman View PostThe record still belongs to Monzon, and Golovkin has never even been in a world title fight yet. He is by far the best middleweight in the world, and will be the world champion soon. Either by beating the Alvarez-Cotto winner or if the winner ducks him and he wins the vacant belt. But let's not cave in to alphabet nonsense. Having an alphabet belt and being a world champion are two vastly different things! Never forget that. There is only one world and there can only be one world champion at any given weight at any given time. That doesn't make me a purist. That's just the way it is.
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I love B-Hop but it's not the same. He can have the record for IBF title defenses, GGG can have the record for WBA Super/Regular/Interim defenses but as far as defenses of THE Middleweight World Championship, the record stands at 14.
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Originally posted by Wolfert View PostGolovkin was promoted to WBA regular paper peasant champion in december 2010, as Felix Sturm was promoted to be the real "Super WBA" titleholder.
Felix Sturm lost the true WBA belt to Daniel Geale on september 2012, the day GGG demolished Grzegorz Proksa in his American debut.
Geale fought Anthony Mundine on January 2013, the WBA in response stripped Geale of the title. Golovkin was made the sole WBA champion as of the GGG vs Nobuhiro Ishida fight in March 2013.
Lemieux is his 9th WBA defense as true WBA champion. It's his 12th IBO defense. It's his 5th defense of the true Super WBA middleweight title.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Posthe could have had 1000 amateur fights doesn't mean the success will translate into the pros....the style is totally different, most of them don't sit down on their shots, etc
Look at guys like Mark Breland, Donald Curry, Howard Davis Jr......they were the best amateur fighters of their era but were only good or very good I the pro ranks
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Originally posted by wildman View PostThe record still belongs to Monzon, and Golovkin has never even been in a world title fight yet. He is by far the best middleweight in the world, and will be the world champion soon. Either by beating the Alvarez-Cotto winner or if the winner ducks him and he wins the vacant belt. But let's not cave in to alphabet nonsense. Having an alphabet belt and being a world champion are two vastly different things! Never forget that. There is only one world and there can only be one world champion at any given weight at any given time. That doesn't make me a purist. That's just the way it is.
But yea, title defences honestly mean nothing. Golovkin being the universally recognised best middleweight is a far superior achievement, and the fact he's been recognised so for a while is even more so. Its why lineal/ABC titles have lost so much lustre
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