Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Rejects Rehydration Clause For Rigondeaux

[The Big Dunn]

You're twisting words and trying to compare the incomparable again. Lomachenko never asked for a rehydration clause for Walters. If Walters can make 126, then he can weigh whatever he wants on fight night. Has Walters even said that he can make 126 again?

I suggest he prove it and try to get a title at the same time. Then if he misses weight again, Lomachenko would at least get a payment penalty plus he could fight for the vacant title. Either that or the fight gets cancelled.

I'm not twisting anything, just showing you that the guarantee Loma wants is impossible. So for you to keep mention that as a legit reason for his pulling away from the Walters fight makes no sense.

This is simply a case of the A side fighter plotting the best course for himself. I don't have a problem with him doing that. I just asked that we skip the BS PR call out of Rigo and get to the Vevtkya announcement and move on.

Loma put himself in this position by what he said.

[Tom Cruise]

I don't believe that trying to negotiate rehydration clauses is reasonable, no matter who is doing it.

If you're "tiny" or "too small" for the weight, then don't fight there. It's disappointing to me from Rigondeaux's team that they would even go down that route. It sounds like a built-in excuse for if he loses.

Who gives a crap whats reasonable? Its not reasonable for Mayweather to get Maidana to wear different gloves. Irs not reasonable for Pacquiao to ask Cotto to come down to 145. Its not reasonable for Ward to get all his Super six fights in America despite everyone else travelling.

You ask for what you think you might be able to get, it almost worked for Hyde, but turns out that it hasnt. Now they negotiate again. Either Rigo/his team agree to come up to full 126 no RH clause or they dont.

Again, i dont get why this is such a big deal. "Fighters manager tries to get his fighter the best deal he can" what a shocker

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm not twisting anything, just showing you that the guarantee Loma wants is impossible. So for you to keep mention that as a legit reason for his pulling away from the Walters fight makes no sense.

This is simply a case of the A side fighter plotting the best course for himself. I don't have a problem with him doing that. I just asked that we skip the BS PR call out of Rigo and get to the Vevtkya announcement and move on.

Loma put himself in this position by what he said.

Yes you are. You're trying to compare Walters being unprofessional and missing weight to Lomachenko wanting to fight at a full weight class against Rigondeaux.

Walters is the one who pulled away from the fight by being unprofessional. Rigondeaux is the one making stipulations over weight.

Yet you criticise Lomachenko? Wonder why.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Who gives a crap whats reasonable? Its not reasonable for Mayweather to get Maidana to wear different gloves. Irs not reasonable for Pacquiao to ask Cotto to come down to 145. Its not reasonable for Ward to get all his Super six fights in America despite everyone else travelling.

You ask for what you think you might be able to get, it almost worked for Hyde, but turns out that it hasnt. Now they negotiate again. Either Rigo/his team agree to come up to full 126 no RH clause or they dont.

Again, i dont get why this is such a big deal. "Fighters manager tries to get his fighter the best deal he can" what a shocker

Ok...and I didn't agree with any of those things. So I don't agree with what Rigondeaux's team are trying to do either. Simple.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes you are. You're trying to compare Walters being unprofessional and missing weight to Lomachenko wanting to fight at a full weight class against Rigondeaux.

Walters is the one who pulled away from the fight by being unprofessional. Rigondeaux is the one making stipulations over weight.

Yet you criticise Lomachenko? Wonder why.

No, I'm going off what Loma said were the criteria for opponents he was seeking. I am criticizing Loma for calling out an opponent that didn't meet the criteria Loma himself set.

Walters missed weight. SO he no longer has a belt so Loma doesn't want to fight him. Ok we get that.

Loma then calling out someone outside of the criteria he set for himself opens him up to criticism. If he had called out Vevetkya, all this wouldn't be being discussed.

Walters pulled away from the fight because he missed weight against Marraga by 1lb? LMFAO, your just trolling now.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No, I'm going off what Loma said were the criteria for opponents he was seeking. I am criticizing Loma for calling out an opponent that didn't meet the criteria Loma himself set.

Walters missing weight has nothing to do with Loma calling out someone outside of the criteria he set for himself.

Walters pulled away from the fight because he missed weight against Marraga by 1lb? LMFAO, your just trolling now.

Why does it matter how many pounds? He missed the weight. I don't get why you aren't criticising the fighter who was unprofessional and ***ed up a potential unification fight.

Instead you are criticising a fighter who has consistently acted in a professional manner and kept his end of the bargain. Wonder why.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Walters missed weight. SO he no longer has a belt so Loma doesn't want to fight him. Ok we get that.

Loma then calling out someone outside of the criteria he set for himself opens him up to criticism. If he had called out Vevetkya, all this wouldn't be being discussed.

Rigondeaux is the weight below. If someone wants to move up in weight to fight him and it's a good fight like that, then obviously he will want it.

He doesn't want to fight Walters because he skipped weight and doesn't want to risk him doing that again.

If Lomachenko was calling out someone bigger instead of Walters, you'd have a point.

You're really going out of your way to criticise Lomachenko. Making dumb comparisons.

[The Big Dunn]

Why does it matter how many pounds? He missed the weight. I don't get why you aren't criticising the fighter who was unprofessional and ***ed up a potential unification fight.

Instead you are criticising a fighter who has consistently acted in a professional manner and kept his end of the bargain. Wonder why.

Because walters/marraga fight and missing weight for that fight isn't what this thread is about. You are trying to make it an issue to deflect from the issue about Loma/Rigo.

I have only criticized Loma for calling out Rigo for the reasons I have stated I haven't criticized him for anything else.

Why, because it contradicts what he stated was his criteria for opposition.

[The Big Dunn]

Rigondeaux is the weight below. If someone wants to move up in weight to fight him and it's a good fight like that, then obviously he will want it.

He doesn't want to fight Walters because he skipped weight and doesn't want to risk him doing that again.

If Lomachenko was calling out someone bigger instead of Walters, you'd have a point.

You're really going out of your way to criticise Lomachenko. Making dumb comparisons.

He doesn't want to fight Walters because he skipped weight and doesn't want to risk him doing that again.

That is your opinion, not a fact. No biased opinions, just facts is what you said you wanted. Much like Loma you are violating your own criteria.

So it all comes down to why you as an individual think is Loma's reasoning for moving away from the walters fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because walters/marraga fight and missing weight for that fight isn't what this thread is about. You are trying to make it an issue to deflect from the issue about Loma/Rigo.

I have only criticized Loma for calling out Rigo for the reasons I have stated I haven't criticized him for anything else.

Why, because it contradicts what he stated was his criteria for opposition.

He doesn't want to fight Walters because he skipped weight and doesn't want to risk him doing that again.

That is your opinion, not a fact. No biased opinions, just facts is what you said you wanted. Much like Loma you are violating your own criteria.

So it all comes down to why you as an individual think is Loma's reasoning for moving away from the walters fight.

His stated criteria for opposition is that they fight at featherweight. Walters missed the weight and screwed up a potential unification....yet you criticise Lomachenko? Hmmm....