Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Pacquiao's Story Backfired, No Rematch!

[MisanthropicNY]

The combination of the two styles WAS the key to making this fight exciting. Not Floyd changing to become an idiotic brawler with no skills. It was the classic defensive wizard and boxer versus the all out punching machine. IF and I mean IF both guys came with their A game then the fight WOULD have been exciting. Except ONE guy did not show up. That guy is Manny. Let's face it. He was throwing that right hand all the way to the ending bell but he let Floyd punk him with the straight right and the jab and that kept him honest the whole fight. He let Floyd move off the ropes, the was easily tied up. What happened to the strategy that Freddie had? We all knew what Floyd would do, he had to have an answer for the straight right!!!! I see no one calling Manny and his team out on this. If I am a trainer going against Floyd, you have got to have answer for this favorite weapon, that right hand! Period....

So you already went into the fight with the preconceived expectation that Manny needs to be an all out punching machine in order to win... but Floyd gets to just box and do nothing offensively... Pretty much sums up why Floyd got the decision but didn't really win the fight... Manny wasn't a "reckless" brawler like you expected..he didn't fall into any of Floyd's traps..and actually still landed more and did more damage to Floyd over the course of 12 rounds...

I'm sorry Floyd doesn't have to be a reckless brawler...but he doesn't win because he makes the fight a low output fight because that's his "style" lol... The fight is the fight..forget about whose style is suited for what..

Seems like a very illogical post... probably been brainwashed by the U.S. Media and FIomo internet trolls...

[PAC-BOY]

weight loss and proper dieting, if done when not in camp, means you can use camp to prepare for the opponent rather than spend a lot of valuable time on weight reduction.

Thats totally untrue. Some fighters take time off from training. Take Maidana for example. Or Ricky Hatton. To lose that type of weight healthy takes better preparation and may take a little longer to do so. Some fights dont happen because camps dont get the proper time they feel their fighter needs to get ready.

In this case within the short time for preparation and the MONEY offered to a B class fighter is a once in a life time opportunity. Floyds camp knows this and its why they can get away with it. Dont sugar coat it just because youre a d*ck rider.

[jwalkr]

Mayweather, his father, and both his uncles, who know boxing as good as anyone, knows what really took place in that ring. And that's why they are avoiding a rematch. You can laugh it off all you want, but go back and watch again slow motion. At full speed, everyone, myself included missed a very good fight. Paquioa outBOXED Floyd. And punished him (except the 11th). They all know that even with an injury, Floyd was hurt. A lot. You can laugh at the notion, but just do it. So many shots that Floyd threw were blocked or avoided, but of course compubox counts even a feint from Floyd as a scoring blow.

[The Big Dunn]

No actually i got up and walked away because the hugging and running. Dont take my word for it. You should have heard the boos from the crowd when Floyd was doing this. Then Bayless allowing the holding with not ONE warning. I saw the bullshlt a mile away.

Plus knowing that Manny had to KO Floyd to get the win. That in Vegas with the judges and Floyd we all knew it wasnt gonna be fair. lol look at he scores at the end. Add all the holding all that running Plus at the time (not knowing) a hurt right arm.

lol I know you didnt watch the fight but Floyd sr told his son to stop fighting scared. I say the fight was close because i saw too much running and holding. No ring generalship from Floyd at all. He never was the aggressor either. Thats why i had the fight close and i wouldnt argue a draw.

But im not saying it was. Floyd did more and won the fight IMO. Barley. Even though it was a shlt fight and boring. It was close manny was hurt and it should be a rematch. If Floyd dont want it for (like you said) all that money then that shows even he knows how close it was and how lame he had to be to keep from getting ***ed up badly!

LMFAO!!! of course you wouldn't have argued a draw, that would have been Manny getting a decision he didn't deserve. Sort of like canelo fans not getting mad at the 114-114 card even though they knew it was wrong.

Floyd won this fight by the same margin he won the Cotto fight. The difference is Cotto fought and tried to win so the fight was exciting. Manny didn't seem to try and win. He was content to get a check.

His "injury" is suspect because he kept using the allegedly injured arm throughout the fight. Also, he never mentioned an injury to his corner.

If you didn't think that fight deserved a rematch, you shouldn't feel this one does. Other than loving Manny and desperately clinging to the belief he can beat Floyd.

[hitking]

Everyone besides the U.S. Media and FIomos know that Manny won the fight. He landed more punches and harmless Floyd did nothing to him of any significance in the fight.

The UK media and the International community have watched the fight in slow-motion and realize the compubox stats were a sham and the commentary was biased...

Rounds 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, and 12 were all Manny's rounds...

I could imagine what Manny would have did to Floyd 5-6 years ago, and/or what Manny would have done that night with two-healthy arms...

I'm still trying to find these "everybodies" that thought Manny won. Outside a couple fanatical mutant fux on here.I've heard maybe 5% of folks in the boxing community that thought Pac won.

[Boxing Goat]

How is it just an excuse when he had torn rotator cuff surgery on may 4th?

I swear Floyd and his fans are a bunch of idiots.

[MisanthropicNY]

Mayweather, his father, and both his uncles, who know boxing as good as anyone, knows what really took place in that ring. And that's why they are avoiding a rematch. You can laugh it off all you want, but go back and watch again slow motion. At full speed, everyone, myself included missed a very good fight. Paquioa outBOXED Floyd. And punished him (except the 11th). They all know that even with an injury, Floyd was hurt. A lot. You can laugh at the notion, but just do it. So many shots that Floyd threw were blocked or avoided, but of course compubox counts even a feint from Floyd as a scoring blow.

Floyd Jr. himself knows...look at Floyd's comments at the end of the fight..."Yes, now I know why Manny is so great" or something like that...

How is that Manny's 4th and 6th round were so much more one-sided than any of Floyd's rounds... and those were the only rounds Manny won on the score cards lol...

Manny needs to totally dominate Floyd in a round to win it because the media planted in everyone's head that Manny had to throw 800 punches to win etc...

Manny only needs to do better than Floyd in that round to win... he's fighting Floyd not Compubox punches thrown records...

This fight demonstrates the control the media has over people's expectations... Floyd has marketed himself very well as a guy who must be dominated in a round to lose it... I mean one Judge Moretti had May beating Pac 10-2..he had Canelo and Judah doing better LOL..

[PAC-BOY]

ya i agree i think it was a harder fight for floyd then people want to admit i agree 100% the rounds he won he barely won tho it was obvious he won them it was not blow outs. I do think manny none activity had more to do with mayweather then his "injury" tho as its happened in the past for short periods even against marquez when he was being countered easily. I just have hard time believing the injury claims i really do. I also think mayweather played it safe he could of done more but he didnt have to the most important thing in a fight of that size is to win as much as we like to think differently winning is all that matters

:qqq: I know not everyone is gonna choose to believe Manny was hurt. Some people believe in a god they never seen or an Easter Bunny or Santa Clause. Believing in something is just ones choice and i get it. Id lie if i said i didnt doubt it at first myself. but i began to dig a little deeper and do more research on it and thats what drew me to my conclusion that he was indeed hurt before the fight and re injured it during the fight.

Despite that it was a close fight. Also a disgusting boring fight. With absolutely NO action.

[The Big Dunn]

Thats totally untrue. Some fighters take time off from training. Take Maidana for example. Or Ricky Hatton. To lose that type of weight healthy takes better preparation and may take a little longer to do so. Some fights dont happen because camps dont get the proper time they feel their fighter needs to get ready.

In this case within the short time for preparation and the MONEY offered to a B class fighter is a once in a life time opportunity. Floyds camp knows this and its why they can get away with it. Dont sugar coat it just because youre a d*ck rider.

Floyd, Hagler, Bhop, GGG and others stay in shape all the time. They can therefore spend more time in camp on fight prep rather than weight loss.

If you spend time between fights eating anything, drinking and smoking, you are making it that much different. Hatton and Maidana hurt themselves.

Take Manny for example. He got a late call for Ledbawa but was in shape, so he didn't have to waste precious time on weight loss.

[PAC-BOY]

LMFAO!!! of course you wouldn't have argued a draw, that would have been Manny getting a decision he didn't deserve. Sort of like canelo fans not getting mad at the 114-114 card even though they knew it was wrong.

Floyd won this fight by the same margin he won the Cotto fight. The difference is Cotto fought and tried to win so the fight was exciting. Manny just quit. His "injury" is suspect because he kept throwing combos throughout the fight.

If you didn't think that fight deserved a rematch, you shouldn't feel this one does. Other than loving Manny and desperately clinging to the belief he can beat Floyd.

I know you honestly gave Floyd rounds and points for holding and running. I get it. thats why you have it such a wide margin. Paid judges do the same thing. When some judges deduct poits and award the aggressor and not the huger and runner like Floyd. Thats why you cant see the fight closer than it was. You actually gave Floyd rounds on running and hugging because thats exactly what he did most of the fight in 6 rounds at better in the fight.

you really should watch the fight!