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    Originally posted by i'm a fun haver View Post
    Signed to fight Chavez jr and Chavez jr runs away to fight at LHW. Offers to fight in Froch's hometown n at 168. Froch would rather retire. Both of them are bigger than GGG.
    Wants to fight the lineal champ in his own division but is supposedly "picking on a ww lol" when Cotto is going to fight a weight drainer who is the same size as GGG on fight night. No one has a problem with that though lol
    Canelo is a guy GGGs size. Whats wrong with GGG fighting him?
    -Chavez didn't run to ****; Arum tried to **** him out the take on the fight, offering $2m for a fight that would easily clear $15m before Arum was obligated to pay Chavez Jr a single penny more. Golovkin hadn't even seen $1m for a fight by that point, so he and his camp were more than happy to get ****ed by Arum.

    -Froch has already made all the money he's ever dreamed of making, and Golovkin's name doesn't really mean anything in England, even if Froch took the fight to his hometown (beyond that, with the way K2 has brushed off talk of other fights, you can also assume that making the fight would've cut significantly into Froch's possible take on the fight too).

    Team Golovkin could give a **** about "fighting the lineal champ"; they see the money that Cotto brings in and want a piece. The same thing can be said for wanting the Canelo fight (40,000 people into the Alamodome) and the Mayweather fight ($70m at the gate).

    Mention Ward or Lara and, all of a sudden, those fights can't be made for a multitude of reasons; harping to fight the guy with the massive deal with the rival broadcaster (Mayweather), yet unwilling to even talk about making the Lara fight. Because Lara's Golovkin's size too.

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      Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
      If Ward moved down to 160 it would become the best division in boxing overnight.

      Middleweight is very good division. Cotto, Lemiuex, Quillin, Lee, GGG, NDam, and Canelo are a better bunch of figters than the Supermiddle weight division.

      I mean Arthur Abhram is currently ranked one in the division and the guy has only beaten on top ten fighter there.
      None of the guys that you mentioned beat Ward, Froch, or Degale; to push the point even further, i'm not even sure the guys on your list are good enough to beat Abraham.

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        Ggg vs ward is a super fight for 2017

        Or the tail end of 2016

        Depending on when ggg vs cotto Canelo winner happens
        Last edited by jas; 06-30-2015, 12:45 AM.

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          if he feels good at 60, why not stay there... still want to see him in bigger fights. Not getting any younger

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            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            -Chavez didn't run to ****; Arum tried to **** him out the take on the fight, offering $2m for a fight that would easily clear $15m before Arum was obligated to pay Chavez Jr a single penny more. Golovkin hadn't even seen $1m for a fight by that point, so he and his camp were more than happy to get ****ed by Arum.

            -Froch has already made all the money he's ever dreamed of making, and Golovkin's name doesn't really mean anything in England, even if Froch took the fight to his hometown (beyond that, with the way K2 has brushed off talk of other fights, you can also assume that making the fight would've cut significantly into Froch's possible take on the fight too).

            Team Golovkin could give a **** about "fighting the lineal champ"; they see the money that Cotto brings in and want a piece. The same thing can be said for wanting the Canelo fight (40,000 people into the Alamodome) and the Mayweather fight ($70m at the gate).

            Mention Ward or Lara and, all of a sudden, those fights can't be made for a multitude of reasons; harping to fight the guy with the massive deal with the rival broadcaster (Mayweather), yet unwilling to even talk about making the Lara fight. Because Lara's Golovkin's size too.
            You're such an annoying poster, you have an excuse for everything even if it contradicts everything you said posts before.

            These are all guys Golovkin has tried to fight, there is zero point trying to discredit every one of them.

            Golovkin doesn't care about the belts, he just wants money? Ok what is everyone else doing on the sport of boxing? Golovkin has shown his desire to unifying the belts by going after every title holder in the division. What is Golovkin supposed to do here, not want to fight the big names? You're seriously trying to hold it against GGG for attempting to fight Froch, Cotto, Chavez, Canelo, Lemieux? People complain about his resume, yet he tried to fight all these guys.

            Now you're talking about Lara even though you've been complaining about Golovkin not fighting guys his own size? Lol you obviously have an agenda that's made you ******ed. You've also been explained in detail days/weeks ago the difference in fighting Mayweather on PPV versus fighting a Haymon guy on regular HBO. Obviously we just saw a joint HBO/SHO PPV. We've yet to see a Haymon fighter fight an HBO guy on HBO. But you know this already. And if they somehow make that fight, after Golovkin KO's Lara you'll proceed to complain about Golovkin beating up smaller guys. What a waste of time reading your posts.

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              GGG has stayed at 160 since 2006! It has been almost a decade.

              10 years at 160, and we expect him to move down to 154?! He WILL be drained.

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                Originally posted by FLYBOY View Post
                GGG has stayed at 160 since 2006! It has been almost a decade.

                10 years at 160, and we expect him to move down to 154?! He WILL be drained.
                Hopkins was at 160 for more than 10 years when he moved down to 156 to KO Oscar. Granted that's two pounds north of 154. I'm no advocate of Golovkin fighting at 154 unless it's an offer he can't refuse.

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                  Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                  You're such an annoying poster, you have an excuse for everything even if it contradicts everything you said posts before.

                  These are all guys Golovkin has tried to fight, there is zero point trying to discredit every one of them.

                  Golovkin doesn't care about the belts, he just wants money? Ok what is everyone else doing on the sport of boxing? Golovkin has shown his desire to unifying the belts by going after every title holder in the division. What is Golovkin supposed to do here, not want to fight the big names? You're seriously trying to hold it against GGG for attempting to fight Froch, Cotto, Chavez, Canelo, Lemieux? People complain about his resume, yet he tried to fight all these guys.

                  Now you're talking about Lara even though you've been complaining about Golovkin not fighting guys his own size? Lol you obviously have an agenda that's made you ******ed. You've also been explained in detail days/weeks ago the difference in fighting Mayweather on PPV versus fighting a Haymon guy on regular HBO. Obviously we just saw a joint HBO/SHO PPV. We've yet to see a Haymon fighter fight an HBO guy on HBO. But you know this already. And if they somehow make that fight, after Golovkin KO's Lara you'll proceed to complain about Golovkin beating up smaller guys. What a waste of time reading your posts.
                  Guys like Scipio always tell on themselves if you let them talk long enough.
                  It's like watching some dummy on that show The First 48 try to lie their way out of some **** despite all the evidence connecting them to a crime lol
                  Agenda on fleek! lol

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                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    12 years at the same weight, below what he fought as an amateur (with the apparent "right before the fight" rules that have magically popped up on this site) is a bit much (Carl Froch basically fighting his entire career at 12 stone is pretty impressive):

                    -Shawn Porter being a football player (was an all-conference player during his junior and senior years in high school, dovetailing directly with the effort to make the 2008 Olympic team) had more to do with that than anything. Beyond that, Porter fought a single fight at 165, dropping down to 154 within a year of committing full-time to only boxing.

                    -Timothy Bradley has now been fighting at 147 for about as long as he fought at 140; actually looking at his fights (thanks to the updated BoxRec), Bradley has fought 15 of his 34 fights north of 140lbs +1.

                    -Andre Ward fought the light heavyweight division at 172lbs, fighting out of division to get Andre Dirrell a chance to win a medal. Beyond that, Ward debuted at 160, not 168.

                    Just imagine what would've been said if Andre Ward, after winning the US national title at 165 in 2001, was still trying to fight at 160 by 2013. Shawn Porter, within two years of being a full time boxer, was fighting at 147; if Shawn Porter is still fighting 147 five years from now, people would look upon that as quite odd.
                    No magic, same day weighing in the amateurs forever, ignoramus. If you only used your head it'd make sense, since they fight multiple times over 2 weeks, so you cannot blow up. But we've seen thinking is not your thing

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                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Ok?

                      Arturo Gatti was in the 160's on fight night.

                      None of which weighed in at 160 for a decade like Golovkin has.
                      So what's your point? That GGG dehydrated less than most top level boxers? Yes, of course. But what's this decade talk, don't see the point there

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