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    #21
    Originally posted by lacson View Post
    All the blame falls under NSAC and USADA, they were the ones governing the testing and the fight itself. That's the problem when you have two en****** that were not communcating properly with each other. Under normal situations it would have been all handled by NSAC.

    Pacquiao's team informed USADA about the injury and medication they could use. It should have been communicated to NSAC.

    NSAC meanwhile should have done due diligence regarding the medical questionnaire. All they needed to do was carry out the basic process, nothing really extraordinary. Just asked what was the medication for and they would have found out about the injury.

    And why would USADA authorize the injection for fight night 5 days prior and not inform NSAC? This has become a clusterf~ck between those two governing bodies.

    So how would you feel as a fighter like Pac who was expecting that the injection had been approved 5 days prior and suddenly fight night it was taken away. That's why he says he was sabotaged. The question is was it in purpose and truly sabotaged or was it just pure incompetence.
    It's just not how it works. USADA takes care only of drugtesting, everything else NSAC takes care of. Should be simple enough for everyone to understand, at least for a guy and his advisor with 60+ fights and a veteran promoter...

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      #22
      Originally posted by lacson View Post
      All the blame falls under NSAC and USADA, they were the ones governing the testing and the fight itself. That's the problem when you have two en****** that were not communcating properly with each other. Under normal situations it would have been all handled by NSAC.

      Pacquiao's team informed USADA about the injury and medication they could use. It should have been communicated to NSAC.

      NSAC meanwhile should have done due diligence regarding the medical questionnaire. All they needed to do was carry out the basic process, nothing really extraordinary. Just asked what was the medication for and they would have found out about the injury.

      And why would USADA authorize the injection for fight night 5 days prior and not inform NSAC? This has become a clusterf~ck between those two governing bodies.

      So how would you feel as a fighter like Pac who was expecting that the injection had been approved 5 days prior and suddenly fight night it was taken away. That's why he says he was sabotaged. The question is was it in purpose and truly sabotaged or was it just pure incompetence.
      According to USADA, they were not told about Pacquiao's injury.

      Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told the New York Daily News that Pacquiao's camp let the boxer down failing to disclose his shoulder injury. While his organization approved the medications, he says USADA was never advised that Pacquiao was using them to treat a shoulder injury.
      "We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked 'no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground."
      Last edited by radioraheem; 05-19-2015, 02:37 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by gee73 View Post
        It's just not how it works. USADA takes care only of drugtesting, everything else NSAC takes care of. Should be simple enough for everyone to understand, at least for a guy and his advisor with 60+ fights and a veteran promoter...
        Exactly, but the funny thing is, USADA went on record saying that they knew nothing about Pacquiao's injury too.

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          #24
          Originally posted by gee73 View Post
          It's just not how it works. USADA takes care only of drugtesting, everything else NSAC takes care of. Should be simple enough for everyone to understand, at least for a guy and his advisor with 60+ fights and a veteran promoter...
          Normally NSAC is in charge of the testing also. So you would have been dealing with one entity.

          I don't think they were used to having to deal with one and then the other, I think they assumed and rightfully so that USADA and NSAC would have been communicating. Two en****** results in a clusterf~ck. Always happens, there should always be just one in charge.

          You would have thought that NSAC would have been in charge overall and had USADA inform them of everything.

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            #25
            Originally posted by lacson View Post
            Blaming Pacquiao for not pulling out of the fight became moot once NSAC found out about the injury. That responsibility then fell on them. It didn't matter that it was fight night, it became NSAC's call to shut down the fight, they were the governing body. They're the ones who had to step up to the plate and do the right thing regardless.
            Yes, but they came with the information at the very last minute and without ANY evidence.

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              #26
              Pacquiao was 100% according to Bob Arum.

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                #27
                Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                Exactly, but the funny thing is, USADA went on record saying that they knew nothing about Pacquiao's injury too.
                That's USADA's side but Pacquiao is adamant that they were informed. It will come out if they have an inquiry.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                  Pacquiao was 100% according to Bob Arum.
                  And Bobby said that every fighter goes into a fight with some type of injury from his experience.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by lacson View Post
                    That's USADA's side but Pacquiao is adamant that they were informed. It will come out if they have an inquiry.
                    If NSAC was never informed, then more than likely USADA's claim that they were not informed either is 100% correct.

                    Keep in mind, one of the reasons Team Pacquiao uses for concealing the alleged injury is that they didn't want Team Mayweather to find out.
                    Last edited by radioraheem; 05-19-2015, 02:44 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lacson View Post
                      That's USADA's side but Pacquiao is adamant that they were informed. It will come out if they have an inquiry.
                      Like he was adamant the NSAC form was filled in correctly until it was posted online?

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