The hypocrisy that involves the GGG-Ward-Kovalev triangle!

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Stars based on what? Surely it can't be based on accomplishment and skill because Andre Ward shines in those areas.

GGG and Kovalev are nowhere near stars. What PPV card have either of them headlined?

Andre Ward unified his division. He already fought in the big unification matches in his weight class.

GGG hasn't unified a damn thing. He's basically unproven. His opponents are mostly constituted of average fighters with average to below average skillsets.

Meanwhile Ward has already been in with POUND FOR POUND level comp.

What about GGG? What top 20 pound for pound has he been in with?

Kovalev's best victory is over a 50 year old Bernard Hopkins. LOL! SMH

Kov and GGG are two untested, overrated, hyped, HBO created, slow, modern day Great White Hypes!

Just like the Klitshkos have been feasting on BUMS for decades it seems like, ironically, so have GGG and Kovalev. Hmmmmm...

Terrance Crawford has already been matched tougher than GGG/Kov. So has Canelo and by a wide margin.

GGG and Kov will always be leaps and bounds BEHIND Andre Ward from a skill perspective.

Andre is quicker than both of those stiff backed hypejobs. He fights with more ring intelligence and athleticism. Can't hit what you can't find. Plus his counters are nasty.

Andre will rough both of these boys up real good. After Ward beats either one of these stiff backs, the forum will be crying just as loud as the Pacquiao fan base was on May 3rd. LOL!

Bernard Hopkins has been on record for years now saying he'll never fight Andre Ward. Yet at 50 years old, he risked his health to fight Kovalev. And still went 12 with him. LOL!

Yet believers of the good ol HYPE TRAIN believe these two are ready for Andre Ward.

Roger Mayweather never lied.....

LOL Who has Crawford beat that was tough? His best win is Gamboa, who was coming off a year of inactivity and before that only fought once in 2012. That was only Gamboa's second fight at 135 and was still giving Crawford the business until the 5th round, when the size difference came into play. Besides Gamboa he's fought Beltran, Burns, Dulorme (who was also winning most of the rounds before the knockout), and Prescott. Oh yeah, that's a killer resume.

[bigjavi973]

LMFAO at this SHOOK Cotto stan!!!!!!

PLEASE WARD COME TO THE RESCUE, DON'T HURT MY COTTO, PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE YOU BREAK MY BORICUA HEART

If Cotto is too small LEAVE MIDDLEWEIGHT.

Ward is a super middle and GGG has unfinished business and bigger fights at 160.

You don't have a leg to stand on!

Shook Cotto "stan"? Where in my post does it show that im "shook"? Quote me saying that cotto is too small for mw and that he shouldn't fight GGG.

Fucking ****** ass racist bastard motherfucker.

I don't even know how the hell they haven't perma banned your racist ass.

[Hype job]

Shook Cotto "stan"? Where in my post does it show that im "shook"? Quote me saying that cotto is too small for mw and that he shouldn't fight GGG.

Fucking ****** ass racist bastard motherfucker.

I don't even know how the hell they haven't perma banned your racist ass.

You don't want Cotto to face GGG fact!

[xhiddenx87]

Stars based on what? Surely it can't be based on accomplishment and skill because Andre Ward shines in those areas.

GGG and Kovalev are nowhere near stars. What PPV card have either of them headlined?

Andre Ward unified his division. He already fought in the big unification matches in his weight class.

GGG hasn't unified a damn thing. He's basically unproven. His opponents are mostly constituted of average fighters with average to below average skillsets.

Meanwhile Ward has already been in with POUND FOR POUND level comp.

What about GGG? What top 20 pound for pound has he been in with?

Kovalev's best victory is over a 50 year old Bernard Hopkins. LOL! SMH

Kov and GGG are two untested, overrated, hyped, HBO created, slow, modern day Great White Hypes!

Just like the Klitshkos have been feasting on BUMS for decades it seems like, ironically, so have GGG and Kovalev. Hmmmmm...

Terrance Crawford has already been matched tougher than GGG/Kov. So has Canelo and by a wide margin.

GGG and Kov will always be leaps and bounds BEHIND Andre Ward from a skill perspective.

Andre is quicker than both of those stiff backed hypejobs. He fights with more ring intelligence and athleticism. Can't hit what you can't find. Plus his counters are nasty.

Andre will rough both of these boys up real good. After Ward beats either one of these stiff backs, the forum will be crying just as loud as the Pacquiao fan base was on May 3rd. LOL!

Bernard Hopkins has been on record for years now saying he'll never fight Andre Ward. Yet at 50 years old, he risked his health to fight Kovalev. And still went 12 with him. LOL!

Yet believers of the good ol HYPE TRAIN believe these two are ready for Andre Ward.

Roger Mayweather never lied.....

Wow too much hate in one post!

I prefer to see those fights rather than complain about the level of those two "Great White Hypes".

Whoever the winner it's good for us and Boxing. Do you realize that?

[DreamerUSA]

For a guy that is not a draw and nobody cares about...Ward gets talked about A LOT on this forum and Good or Bad that is a GREAT For Him!

Lol this x 10000. I'm just glad he is finally fighting again.

[VERSION1 (V1)]

I'm not opposed to a GGG-Ward fight. I want to see it happen. The only issue I really have with it is the weight. Maybe Ward can still make 168 and he's not trying to come down to 168 but it makes you wonder how big of a pain it is to make 168 for him.

I'm not even a fan of GGG so before I get labeled as one both guys want easy paydays. That's fairly obvious. They both wanted Chavez at 168 for an easy payday. Let's be honest, it would have been easy work for both men. Neither dude has a big ass fan base so they gotta do what they gotta do get that check.

If we are keeping things fair, no one can label anyone a ducker if Ward is back fighting at 168. Let's see where he fights at after his next fight but if he's still at the 172 mark, it's clear he should move up. The only reason why GGG isn't as bad as Ward is because GGG isn't fighting at 163 or 164 or something along those lines but if he did he would look just as bad as Ward.

maybe he fighting at 172 because he has not fought inalmost two years. how about we wait to see what happen after this fight to see if he staying at 168 or moving up

[Beater_of_ass]

Who the hell is scared of a good fight happening? LOL

The only thing you see here is GGG fans saying they want to see Cotto vs GGG or Canelo vs GGG and then people jump in with Golovkin is ducking Ward doe! Then someone says Ward is ducking Kovalev doe!

It's silly. There are weight classes here. Golovkin is set on unifying the middleweight division. Cotto is lineal champ, Canelo is moving up to middleweight. Ward is obviously at 168 and just now got his legal issues taken care of and finally getting back into the ring and will have 1-2 tune up fights depending on how the Smith fight goes. Golovkin vs Ward will happen. People need to chill since it quite obviously can't happen immediately. Both Ward and Golovkin have both said that is a fight they want down the road. No problem there. Let GGG do his thing, Ward does his and they'll have a great fight later.

As for Kovalev, he's been the best of his division but don't really know WTF happened with the Adonis fight. Kovalev looking like the one who doesn't want it because the way Duva mishandled that situation. Hopefully they'll fight eventually. As for a Ward fight, doesn't matter unless Ward decides to move up. He has no obligation to do so, people need to chill on that as well and realize no fighter is obliged to move up in weight. You can't duck a fighter that's not in your own division, it's ridiculous.

I would be okay with this argument but GGG had no problems moving up for Chavez just a year ago. Now he can't, the reason is 100% obvious, it's the money bruh. That's it, I don't care that he wants the money but everyone does and he has to wait. The unification means **** when he was willing to move up just a year ago for a big paycheck.

[Barcham]

Fair point.

But GGG has no reason to move up when he has bigger fish to fry in his own division.

If anyone should be hunting for the fight it's Ward, as there is NO ONE at 168 who brings dat papah.

GGG has Cotton and Canelo who are bigger money and will bring him more attention than Ward.

I completely agree with you. There is no reason at all for GGG to move to 168. There are enough quality fights for the next two or three years at MW, the next decade if you fight at Cotto speed or next half century at Ward's rate, most of which are much more interesting than anything available at SMW and will bring a higher payday.

The only reason he should move up would be for a HUGE PPV bout with enough money on the line to make it impossible to turn away from. And that would be a one off fight and not a permanent move.

[Beater_of_ass]

I completely agree with you. There is no reason at all for GGG to move to 168. There are enough quality fights for the next two or three years at MW, the next decade if you fight at Cotto speed or next half century at Ward's rate, most of which are much more interesting than anything available at SMW and will bring a higher payday.

The only reason he should move up would be for a HUGE PPV bout with enough money on the line to make it impossible to turn away from. And that would be a one off fight and not a permanent move.

There is no reason to move up yet... he nearly fought Chavez @168 less than a year ago.

[Barcham]

I would be okay with this argument but GGG had no problems moving up for Chavez just a year ago. Now he can't, the reason is 100% obvious, it's the money bruh. That's it, I don't care that he wants the money but everyone does and he has to wait. The unification means **** when he was willing to move up just a year ago for a big paycheck.

GGG and his camp have always made it clear that he would leave his division ONLY for a PPV fight. This has always been their stance and it has not changed. At the time, HBO were willing to make the Chavez Jr. a PPV fight and that has obviously changed since he moved to Haymon and was destroyed by Fonfara. That fight would have had absolutely no effect on GGG's goal to unify the division as it would have not been a permanent move to SMW.

And GGG will still fight Chavez because Chavez will owe him $1 million after the fight on top of his purse. That will make up for the lack of PPV.