Comments Thread For: Klitschko-Jennings Most Viewed Cable Bout Since 2012

[100percentTruth]

To put it in perspective Game Of Thrones just did a 3.5mil tv ratings on sunday. And that's the biggest and arguably best show around. Those are great ratings for HBO and why Game of Thrones has a massive budget despite having ratings that if you compared to normal prime time Network shows is not that great. But since HBO is subscription based everyone of those millions watching are paying a premium fee. Which is how Game Of Thrones generates so much money. Generates more money then network shows that get double the ratings.

Idiots keep trying to compare PBC ratings to HBO Boxing or Showtime Boxing when it's totally different. You need to compare PBC to other network primetime shows and sporting events. And then you need to take into account how expensive those PBC shows are. Other sporting leagues have multi-year network deals and commercial sponsors. Meaning the network pays the league for the rights to air it. Haymon has a time buy deal so it's opposite he pays them. Haymon then pays the purses which are in the millions and pays millions for advertisement. NBC aren't paying anything. Haymon is hoping to get high ratings to get sponsors to pay to be a part of this which neither has happened.

I just compared NBC's PBC to FOX's UFC.. can't you read? PBC literally just started in March of this year.. it's April. Before NBC's PBC, there hasn't been boxing on network television in 30 years. You seem like the idiot comparing HBO to PBC. In fact, you write paragraphs comparing it to HBO.

[bigdunny1]

Averaging 3 million is horrendous ratings? How is going from 0 viewership for boxing on NBC to 3 million a dip? 3 million is what UFC averages on FOX and they've been doing this for years. Who cares if PBC is effecting HBO? People will watch boxing whether it's on HBO, NBC, on the streets, in the gym. Stop being a dunny.

UFC got huge ratings to get the FOX deal in the first place. They debuted with a 5.7 rating almost double to what PBC got. Ratings that dwarf what PBC has gotten in their debut. Since they got the FOX deal UFC ratings went down. But it still makes money because the purses are so cheap in UFC. An entire fight card on FOX all the fighters combined don't make 1mil. Meanwhile on NBC first fight card Thurman, Guerrero, Broner all each made well over 1mil each.

see below for the full purses for that night


It is so much cheaper to air UFC fights then it is for PBC. With fight purses that 5X that of UFC fighters. And UFC again has a FOX deal and sponsors two things PBC doesn't. All this means PBC losing money at a rapid pace.

[bigdunny1]

I just compared NBC's PBC to FOX's UFC.. can't you read? PBC literally just started in March of this year.. it's April. Before NBC's PBC, there hasn't been boxing on network television in 30 years. You seem like the idiot comparing HBO to PBC. In fact, you write paragraphs comparing it to HBO.

Kathy Duva aired fights on NBC with a fraction of the cost and got 3.2mil rating.

“I did a show on NBC two, three years ago. I had a $150,000 rights fee. I had to live in that,” she said. “At the peak of my show, I had 3.2 (million watching), they had 4.2. He went out and spent $8 million on marketing, production, the time buy and only got a million more people to watch than I did. My marketing budget on that show was $5,000.” - Kath Duva



The ratings would be fine if the costs were lower. But instead the costs are so high for these PBC shows with tv ratings that aren't high enough to overcome it and bring in sponsors to pay for it.

[Pigeons]

1.6M viewers. Stop the presses.

[100percentTruth]

Kathy Duva aired fights on NBC with a fraction of the cost and got 3.2mil rating.

“I did a show on NBC two, three years ago. I had a $150,000 rights fee. I had to live in that,” she said. “At the peak of my show, I had 3.2 (million watching), they had 4.2. He went out and spent $8 million on marketing, production, the time buy and only got a million more people to watch than I did. My marketing budget on that show was $5,000.” - Kath Duva



The ratings would be fine if the costs were lower. But instead the costs are so high for these PBC shows with tv ratings that aren't high enough to overcome it and bring in sponsors to pay for it.

You forget the most important factor.. the viewership PBC is attempting to grab don't care about how much it cost to show boxing. They just want to see the boxing show.

Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is the fight to get the ball rolling on boxing again. Boxing is back. It's going to be like how it was 30 years ago.

The ratings would be fine if the costs were lower. But instead the costs are so high for these PBC shows with tv ratings that aren't high enough to overcome it and bring in sponsors to pay for it.

Are sponsors going to give Al Hayon over $400 million before the start of PBC? Because that's what investors did.

You seem like you want PBC to fail. Which is not the viewership PBC cares about. They don't care about the complainers and whiners that most likely won't spend on a dime on anything.

Why do you think there are people with big bucks sitting in the front rows at fight night? Because they care if PBC is or is not losing money? No, they come to see a boxing match because they respect the sport and the athletes in the ring.

PBC is building boxers into household names and then going after the viewers that want to see household named boxers fight.

You can’t see the forest for the trees.

& I'm pretty sure Al Hayon is tappin' that ass of Kathy Duva's.

[bigdunny1]

Speaking facts about how PBC is losing money makes me a whiner and complainer? There are tons of network shows that after 1 event increase sponsorship as long as they have strong ratings. PBC has had now many boxing events and STILL you watch and you see basically no commercials. If there were sponsors willing to give Haymon money he would take it and air their commercials. The ratings are not high enough to bring those guys on board. And the ratings dropped on NBC not increased that's a bad sign. And PBC is building guys into household names yet there are numerous reports how they can't even give away these tickets for free.

You turn on ESPN and you see no coverage of PBC. I don't hear nobody at my office cooler talking about these PBC events. I went out of my way to tell as many people as I could find to watch the first NBC show and many either didn't watch or say they turned it on and after watching Broner snooze fest changed the channel and I can't get any of them to give PBC another chance. PBC still has time to build up and maybe get the ratings and the sponsors they need. But at this point it's just a fact they losing money. The brand is not taking off with casual fans. Only hardcore boxing fans know or care about it. None of the PBC fighters are household names you dreaming if you think they are.

[soul_survivor]

the heavyweights are still popular, they just needed to be marketed right in the US.

[RSBonos]

1.6M viewers. Stop the presses.

Why so salty?

The ratings are great.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Good.. Glad ratings were solid for the heavyweight champ.

A wlad vs wilder or fury would probably dwarf those numbers

[Skip Bayless]

he is the heavyweight champ fighting a usa prospect, not surprising tbh. most casuals are still only excited by heavyweights