FAO: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Supporters

[joseph5620]

perception is different.

same mosley though. or close. like a yr difference? sometimes a yr matters. mosley case not much imo.

It wasn't the same Mosley. At all.

[Left Hook Tua]

Ok. Using the proper standard according to you, Mayweather is rated far higher than Pacquiao. Today and all-time.

if that's what ring has him as that's what they have him as.

what's your point?

you are confused. let me explain.

i said ring had morales 2. you might disagree, i might disagree BUT the statement "RING HAD HIM #2" is still correct.

understand?

so if ring has floyd higher than pac atg, and you say "RING HAS FLOYD HIGHER"

then your statement is correct. that's what ring has him as.

[IMDAZED]

if that's what ring has him as that's what they have him as.

what's your point?

you are confused. let me explain.

i said ring had morales 2. you might disagree, i might disagree BUT the statement "RING HAD HIM #2" is still correct.

understand?

so if ring has floyd higher than pac atg, and you say "RING HAS FLOYD HIGHER"

then your statement is correct. that's what ring has him as.

My point is that if the Ring is the standard rankings "everybody" uses, according to you, then that means you think the Ring is right.

Well, the Ring also has Floyd ranked way, way higher than Manny. So it's safe to say, all-time, as it stands, Floyd is way way higher than Manny. Do you not agree? Or just when it suits you regarding the Ring?

[Left Hook Tua]

OK, I can agree that certain losses don't hurt. A loss in the Ledbawa fight wouldn't of hurt as Manny was a late replacement and a huge underdog. JMM/Manny 4 is not one of them.

That loss to JMM hurt, the win over Algieiri did nothing for Manny.

Again, you want to use the name JMM but are kind of disregarding the fact he was a huge underdog in these fights. Manny was seen as the better fighter and was supposed to win.

The draw after having a 4 point lead after round 1 can not be a positive for his resume. Isn't that a choke, for lack of a better term?

Maybe the better question is how much does a loss to an underdog hurt one's resume vs how much does aan easy win elevate ones resume?

it's all obviously opinion.

pac is what 3-1 underdog.

if he beats floyd does it damage floyd's legacy much?

to me it doesn't. pac is an atg. losing to him is no big deal.

i don't see L as this crushing, awful.

losses happen that's boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

it's all obviously opinion.

pac is what 3-1 underdog.

if he beats floyd does it damage floyd's legacy much?

to me it doesn't. pac is an atg. losing to him is no big deal.

i don't see L as this crushing, awful.

losses happen that's boxing.

I think we can agree a loss to Manny will surely hurt Floyd to a degree.

I agree with you about losses, it's just that you asked relative to a fighters resume.

Resume can't just be wins, losses and draws also factor in. who you lose to and when you lose counts just like who you beat and when you beat them.

I agree a loss isn't going to take away from an accumulation of wins.

[bigjavi973]

floyd fans loving the win floyd vs lightweight jmm

[Left Hook Tua]

My point is that if the Ring is the standard rankings "everybody" uses, according to you, then that means you think the Ring is right.

Well, the Ring also has Floyd ranked way, way higher than Manny. So it's safe to say, all-time, as it stands, Floyd is way way higher than Manny. Do you not agree? Or just when it suits you regarding the Ring?

i don't agree with all their rankings.

but if you want to state floyd is higher referring to ring's rankings you can.

[IMDAZED]

i don't agree with all their rankings.

but if you want to state floyd is higher referring to ring's rankings you can.

Well then throw out your nonsense regarding Morales being ranked #2 by them. If you're to use the Ring as some authority on the rankings, then you have to face the fact that they have Floyd ranked way higher than Manny all-time, regardless of whether you agree. Life isn't fair.

[Left Hook Tua]

I think we can agree a loss to Manny will surely hurt Floyd to a degree.

I agree with you about losses, it's just that you asked relative to a fighters resume.

Resume can't just be wins, losses and draws also factor in. who you lose to and when you lose counts just like who you beat and when you beat them.

I agree a loss isn't going to take away from an accumulation of wins.

it'll hurt him as far as undefeated thing.

but his accomplishments are his accomplishments.

losing to pac doesn't mean he didn't win titles 130-154.

it doesn't erase his big wins, etc.

[Left Hook Tua]

Well then throw out your nonsense regarding Morales being ranked #2 by them. If you're to use the Ring as some authority on the rankings, then you have to face the fact that they have Floyd ranked way higher than Manny all-time, regardless of whether you agree. Life isn't fair.

you totally lost me.