Manny Pacquiao, better fighter than Marvin Hagler, do you agree?

[Dr Rumack]

Oh?

Joe Louis told Hagler that he had three strikes against him that were blocking him from a title shot, he was black, he was southpaw, and he was good.

Hagler had to wait 50 fights for his title shot, and when he finally got it they still screwed him out of the decision.

[bojangles1987]

Watching ESPN First Take, SKIP seems to feel that Hagler was overhyped, just a puncher.

Is there any merit to it?

Skip Bayless said that Leonard went toe to toe with Hagler and that Mayweather would beat Hagler.

Anything he has to say about Marvin Hagler is irrelevant. I'm not sure he actually knows who Marvin Hagler is.

[El-blanco]

I like Hagler, he was a great. He was nothing compared with Pac, that's purely an objective statement.

Canelo Alvarez is basically a "Super-Hagler"

Lol classic

[Luilun]

Hagler good middleweight but he made a name of beating Welter Weights and lost to Sugar even though I thought he won the fight

[tredh]

In terms of skill or all time rankings? Cause all time its Pac. Hagler is one of the greatest MW's ever but is he better all time then Monzon,SRR,Greb? Pac is a 8 division champ, 4 time lineal champ, and has a chance to be the first 5 time lineal champ in history with his upcoming fight.

Manny is a so called 8 division champ but that should never be listed in comparison to fighters who fought when some of those divisions never exsisted.

[Elroy1]

Joe Louis told Hagler that he had three strikes against him that were blocking him from a title shot, he was black, he was southpaw, and he was good.

Hagler had to wait 50 fights for his title shot, and when he finally got it they still screwed him out of the decision.

That's a touching story. And I'm sure bitter Louis would have had such a mindset since he was basically little more than a white mans gimp in his day, used and abused.

In reality Hagler was in the 1980's, with racism largely abated, particularly in the boxing world. His southpaw stance not being a major factor when you are the man to beat historically or ever.

None of what you said however on a more important note detracts from the fact that Hagler was not as good as Pac.

He beat SRL. Good for him!

[Elroy1]

Lol classic

SSShhhh

[Elroy1]

Hell no, Hagler is the greatest middle weight ever. He fought in a MUCH better era and beat better fighters. Hearns and Duran are better than anybody Pacquiao has beaten. Hagler had a complete skill set. Fighters don't dominate divisions today the way Hagler did.

Duran is a light on version of Pac.

Hearns is was an aborted version of Margarito.

I am sure Antonio can artificially inflate to Cruiser too with enough burger and fries.

Look at their maximum extensions I am sure they could win by size against Pac.

But lb for lb, none of the fab 4 are nearly as good as Pac. That is the point!

Manny has probably the best lb for lb resume of all time. Surely that can't be disputed!?

And obviously Manny fought in the better era because it's the latest one!

[Pac=Duran]

**** that gimp skip bayless disrespecting Hagler

But I'd give the edge to Pacquiao in this. Marv is a legend and always will be. Pure hero.

[bojangles1987]

Duran is a light on version of Pac.

Hearns is was an aborted version of Margarito.

I am sure Antonio can artificially inflate to Cruiser too with enough burger and fries.

Look at their maximum extensions I am sure they could win by size against Pac.

But lb for lb, none of the fab 4 are nearly as good as Pac. That is the point!

Manny has probably the best lb for lb resume of all time. Surely that can't be disputed!?

And obviously Manny fought in the better era because it's the latest one!

I think this is the best one yet.