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    #81
    I don't see how this guy doesn't irratated the **** outta even the biggest Manny fan. Regardless if Roach even believes the **** he's yap'n or not. Basically, pretty much everything he's had to say about this fight has been some variation of, "I'm better than Floyd Sr." Just like any other big fight, he makes it about himself. If his fighter wins, it was because of his master plan. If his fighter loses, its because they didn't follow his master plan.

    Anyone that dislikes Floyd because of his ego, but is a fan of Roach is a total hypocrite. Because Roach's ego is second to none. At least Floyd has a reason to have an ego. He's actually accomplished something. Roach's claim to fame is owning the first gym Manny Pacquiao saw when he stepped off a banana boat.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Hype job View Post
      So why are his compubox stats similar to Floyd's against mutual opposition?
      There two different styles .. Floyd does not waste punches, where many will throw 10 punches to land 2 or 3. Sniper vs the machine gun. In any case Pac is NOT a better boxer then Floyd. Roach knows this, he's just hyping the fight and Pac nut jockys like yourself is falling for it hook line and sinker.
      Last edited by g-wane; 03-21-2015, 10:56 PM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by CJRock View Post
        What narks Daddy & Uncle Roger is the fact Freddie Roach has won the Trainer of the Year title numerous times. How many times have they won it ?? NEVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Floyd is insanely jealous that Manny gets to dine with British Royalty, judge the Miss Universe contest etc Is revered in his country as a hero etc What does Floyd get?? Nothin Nada Ziltch.
        Freddie the Mayweathers
        Toy is a joke award. Roach won over manny Stewart several times. Toy is just a popularity contest. All these years with roach and pac still has no defense. How does that make him a great trainer? A great trainer teaches his pupil to strenthen his weaknesses. Oscar said roach has you do the samething over and over again, that cookie cutter approach won't work for all. Roach is a joke.

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          #84
          Originally posted by hitking View Post
          I don't see how this guy doesn't irratated the **** outta even the biggest Manny fan. Regardless if Roach even believes the **** he's yap'n or not. Basically, pretty much everything he's had to say about this fight has been some variation of, "I'm better than Floyd Sr." Just like any other big fight, he makes it about himself. If his fighter wins, it was because of his master plan. If his fighter loses, its because they didn't follow his master plan.

          Anyone that dislikes Floyd because of his ego, but is a fan of Roach is a total hypocrite. Because Roach's ego is second to none. At least Floyd has a reason to have an ego. He's actually accomplished something. Roach's claim to fame is owning the first gym Manny Pacquiao saw when he stepped off a banana boat.
          lmao, well said.

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            #85
            Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer View Post
            If you really know your boxing you'd realize Pac can do many more things than Floyd. Casuals think Pac is only this reckless brawler throwing a barrage of punches hoping one lands. That is a casual observation. If you ask trainers who is easier to prepare for no doubt they'd say Mayweather. So Roach is now kidding. Pac really has developed more boxing skills that Floyd over their careers.
            Really like what?
            As a fighter Pac is good at what he does best but please don't say he is a better counter puncher, better foot work, defensive fighter, and has the ability to move from defense to offense in the middle of a firestorm. Floyd is the more accurate fighter of the two, pac is the better speed pressure fighter. Each fighter has set of skill that exceed the other, but lets not kid ourselves boxing is Floyd's office both inside and outside.

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              #86
              Originally posted by hectari View Post
              Roach is getting under Floyd Sr. skin, it is working, watch when he replies he is going to get get all emotional. But the problem with Roach tactic is it will not effect Floyd because like Roach said Floyd basically trains himself and just uses his uncle for mittwork if you watch the corner Floyd does what he wants to do he doesnt listen to any of the instructions there really isn't much technical instruction Roger or Floyd sr give anyway during fights.

              But Roach is tripping hard, if Pacman was so smart at recognizing traps how come he didn't recognize JMM setting up the right hand off the back foot? If Pac was so smart he would have adapted to that right hand he had 4 fights to do so.

              Pac is one of the strangest boxers ever, he is brilliant at taking away or adjusting to a jab, but he cannot avoid right hands, Floyd will just back up and unleash the right hand like Marquez did and Pac will walk into it every time.

              If Pac is able to counter the right of floyd and counter him I will be blown away and shell shocked, I would throw cold water over my head if Pac is able to hang with Floyd in terms of boxing and out classes him. It would be unreal and almost unbelievable,

              Also Floyd rarely uses the shoulder roll agianst a southpaw so that goes to show Roach hasn;t really figured out his style unless he is witholding that from the public.
              so basically floyd sr gives not instructions b/c floyd is making it look easy enough not to need instruction? floyd sr knows his sport and there are rounds he flips the gameplan on and floyd changes it..he dominates fights to the point where he doesn have to be coached each round..

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                #87
                Originally posted by Vicious. View Post
                Water u talking about? He used it on corely and on ortiz. And you call yourself a foyd stan. Shame on you
                he used the shell..the shell is the position he is in..the roll is an attribute of the shell, but nowhere near the only think u can do...i think u were looking at the shell...but floyd gives several diffferent looks

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                  Toy is a joke award. Roach won over manny Stewart several times. Toy is just a popularity contest. All these years with roach and pac still has no defense. How does that make him a great trainer? A great trainer teaches his pupil to strenthen his weaknesses. Oscar said roach has you do the samething over and over again, that cookie cutter approach won't work for all. Roach is a joke.
                  steward deserves to not get any awards.

                  fool ruined heavyweight boxing. 1st with lewis then klits.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Hype job View Post
                    Against mutual opponents their compubox numbers are pretty similar.
                    wat the weight in numbers looking like doe?? wat that 6th round looking like doe?? dont play the numbers game when the big picture game is far more telling

                    we shot the same from the ft line, but my team lost by 40...see wat i mean?

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Floyd is going to beat Manny AND no... Manny resume is not better than Mayweather's ESPECIALLY at 147.
                      pacs resume is better.

                      and their 147 resume shouldn't be close since floyd had a 3 yr head start. that it's debatable says a lot.

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