Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao a Much Better Boxer Than Mayweather

[hugh grant]

Pac is a better fighter and boxer. Floyd is too specialized, he is better at not getting hit only. Similar to a circus or funfair act where you try to hit the performer and get some money if you can, or guess where the ball is whilst the magician hides it under one of 3 cups. Similar to herol graham when he would tie his hands behind his back and ask school kids to try and hit him and hed give them sweeties if they succeeded.

If it goes to a decision I cant see Floyd convincing the judges. Pac is a name equal to Floyd, he isn't no Maidana who Floyd got a favourable decision over.

[aboutfkntime]

I respect Manny. But this 8 division champ stuff needs to stop. His title at jr featherweight was a joke. That was arguably the deepest division in boxing when he was there. Amd he beat a Ledwaba, who was barely top 10, if top 10 at all. David Diaz at lightweight was a joke. Casamayor was the lineal champ. Amd Nate Campbell held like three of the ABC belts. And that farce at jr middleweight against Margarito was an embarrassment. No one else has held major titles in 8 divisions. So I give Manny credit bevause obviously, if it were that easy, more people would have done it. Best let's not act like he didn't have a couple of those titles gift wrapped amd handed to him.

It is a meaningless stat, and completely pointless.

How many divisions did Ali fight in ?

It is exactly the same reasoning as pointing out a number of good/very good wins, and then labelling them collectively as great.

Divisional supremacy is the only thing that counts in boxing.

That stat is like, the fastest knockout, or the most consecutive knockouts..... a cool fun achievement/stat, but completely irrelevant when it comes to a discussion regarding greatness.

[PivotandRoll]

No left hook? probably the best left hook in the game.

If that left hook lands clean on Floyd, Floyd is getting wobbled and possibly going down.

Wow you really are delusional aren't you? One of the best straight lefts in the games yes.... his left hook doesn't exist unless thrown in a combination of wild hooks (like when he pinned Bradley on the ropes)

I suppose your talking about the hook that knocked out Hatton? No before or after but just that fight?

That's like saying Devon Alexander is the master of the uppercut because he murdered Urango with two right uppercuts....***** happens

[D4thincarnation]

It is a meaningless stat, and completely pointless.

How many divisions did Ali fight in ?

It is exactly the same reasoning as pointing out a number of good/very good wins, and then labelling them collectively as great.

Divisional supremacy is the only thing that counts in boxing.

That stat is like, the fastest knockout, or the most consecutive knockouts..... a cool fun achievement/stat, but completely irrelevant when it comes to a discussion regarding greatness.

Floyd has divisional supremacy in 1 division, that is superfeather.

[D4thincarnation]

Wow you really are delusional aren't you? One of the best straight lefts in the games yes.... his left hook doesn't exist unless thrown in a combination of wild hooks (like when he pinned Bradley on the ropes)

I suppose your talking about the hook that knocked out Hatton? No before or after but just that fight?

That's like saying Devon Alexander is the master of the uppercut because he murdered Urango with two right uppercuts....***** happens

Watch perfection. Find me a better left hook from this century?

[aboutfkntime]

Pac had 4 lineal titles in different weight class, which is still the most by any fighter in the modern era...So before you diminish his competition which you can do to any fighter's resume, maybe you should take that to perspective first..

Again, another completely pointless stat when it comes to a conversation regarding greatness.

How many lineal titles did Ali win ?

A lineal champ is just the man-who-beat-the-man, and is often not the best guy in the division..... so, who fkn cares, seriously?

Lineal titles simply cannot be food for thought when considering greatness, because many great champions fought in an era when "lineal" titles did not exist, because they had a real champion back then.

And the argument above regarding divisional titles.....

How can you give one guy credit for the amount of divisional titles that he won, when many great champions only fought under the original 8 divisions...... many great fighters only fought in one division ever.

Again, how many divisions did Ali represent ?

Why bring up meaningless stats that did not apply back in the day? We must compare apples with apples when evaluating different era's.

Divisional supremacy / title defences, are the only things that count when considering greatness.

[D4thincarnation]

The best highlight reel of any boxer

[aboutfkntime]

Floyd has divisional supremacy in 1 division, that is superfeather.

I dont know what you mean ?

He is currently the best 147'lber, and 154'lber, on the planet.

[aboutfkntime]

The best highlight reel of any boxer

That is the 3rd meaningless stat referenced on this 1 page.

So far we got.....

* number of divisional titles
* number of lineal titles
* highlight reels

I would just about kill my mother for a good ol chat about divisional supremacy / title defences

[PivotandRoll]

Watch perfection. Find me a better left hook from this century?

Wow did you really just ignore where I addressed the Hatton punch? You are pathetic