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    #41
    Originally posted by jas View Post
    Wards trainer said ward needs 3 tune ups before ggg

    Yet ward fans ignore this...
    I don't ignore that

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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Its really simple-a lot of the GGG fans are also fans of Kovalev. They want Ward to lose and they think Kov has a better chance of doing it then GGG. SO they push for one fight over the other.
      Personally I'm just tired of Ward always getting his way. Venue, weight, no random testing etc. Maybe it's time for him to make a few concessions (if he decides to fight again of course).

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        #43
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        are chavez jr and froch cheaters who clinch constantly and don't allow their opponents to throw punches? no so maybe there's your answer. win or lose ggg vs chavez and froch would be fair.
        Chavez Jr I'm sure has tested positive for banned substances and not just weed. Froch can be very dirty in the ring.

        The excuses are there to mask the fear.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
          So in conclusion, GGG die hards just aren't interested in this fight and fear this matchup. They want Ward to move up to eliminate the possibility of this fight ever happening. That's good to know.
          i don't want ward to move up. i want him to quit boxing. he's garbage. i don't fear boring people.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
            Ward vs Kovalev is good but I can wait. Stevenson vs Kovalev is what I want to see ASAP.
            Yes, I would agree I'd rather see Stevenson kov first. but Adonis doesn't look like he is going anywhere near Kov.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
              So in conclusion, GGG die hards just aren't interested in this fight and fear this matchup. They want Ward to move up to eliminate the possibility of this fight ever happening. That's good to know.
              Oh I am interested. Not now though. Plenty of business still at 160.

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                #47
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                i never said hopkins had a great performance. i said that he won because he landed all the clean punches. also ward is much much worse than hopkins. why are you labeling everything as equal? some people are worse than others but acknowledging that would hurt your case so i guess its easier for you to just call them all clinchers and let ward keep doing it now that you don't like ggg. during the hopkins fight you said something along the lines of calzaghe won because hopkins kept clinching and didn't want to fight, and you can't give rounds to guys who clinch so much, but now that ward has the chance to clinch-hug ggg to death you are all for it? just be consistent.
                He really isn't. I didn't say Calzaghe won cos Hopkins kept clinching.

                You're the one who says it's cheating so I guess Hopkins didn't really win. He should have been DQ'd if you are really consistent.

                Damn....your whole identity on here is shot to **** now. Do you even know who you are any more man?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  Oh I am interested. Not now though. Plenty of business still at 160.
                  Agreed....

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    Chavez Jr I'm sure has tested positive for banned substances and not just weed. Froch can be very dirty in the ring.

                    The excuses are there to mask the fear.
                    there you go with your false equivalencies again. it seems to be your only move. yes everyone is a cheater so i guess its ok that ward constantly cheats. i'm sure golovkin has thrown a low blow or 2 in his career so i guess he and ward are both cheaters too.

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                      #50
                      Ward moving up isn't the issue anymore, its that he isn't even fighting. Hasn't fought in over a year. He can stay at 168 if he wants, comeback against Felix Sturm then fight the Dirrell brothers. Maybe by then GGG will be seasoned enough to take on Andre Ward.

                      Golovkin fights 3-4 times a year, Ward is fighting 0 times a year so far.

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