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    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
    I agree with the jab to the body comment. Floyd has the best jab to the body and Manny is susceptible to it. Manny will adjust though. His footspeed will help him miles in this fight.
    His foot speed is a gift and a curse. He has great foot speed, not great footwork.

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      Yup.

      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
      I never liked 50, he's a bigger flowemoe than you for ****s sake.


      Agreed. I hope he does bet it so he can lose it. LoL.

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        Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
        Agreed. I hope he does bet it so he can lose it. LoL.
        He is betting. His whopping 1.6million dollars on a 'sure thing.' Because Floyd "can't be beat."

        He's supposed to be some ridiculous millionaire. Sounds like one of the most mild bets of all time. Not even news worthy. I found it odd. It's the equivalent of me going to Vegas and betting $1,000 on a "sure thing."

        50 Cent is a tool. He's most likely going broke hence the penny Anne bet for some 'big shot' on a 'sure thing.'

        50 Cent is the lowest form of a Flowemoe. Pretends not to he a Floyd nut slurper, but he's so transparent.

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          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          You can get hit with a right hook upstairs whether you're throwing the jab or straight right to the body. Doesn't matter. It's about timing and distance. Pacquiao is susceptible to jabs to the midsection.
          If you throw a high stiff jab or high flicking jab like you're aiming at his forehead, it's hard for a southpaw to counter over it with a right hook.











          If Floyd is constantly using his lead hand as a pawing/flicking jab to measure the distance and keep Manny occupy momentarily like in this gif, he can easily set up his offense downstairs or upstairs, and still be able to anticipate Manny's attack. I have a hard time picturing Manny countering over Floyd's lead hand if he constantly uses it this way to set his offense. Manny would have no choice but to side-step out to another angle or back up in a straight line.

          Bottom line, Manny isn't effective at fighting while backing up, and Floyd can systematically cut the ring off and walk him down behind the lead hand/measuring jab as he did against, Ortiz. Floyd is also very accurate with his own left hook counter over a southpaw's right hook, so I think he'll figure out a way to deal with Manny's right hook, but the bottom line is, Floyd shouldn't give Manny any openings if he doesn't have to. Floyd needs to make his reach count.

          He should force Manny to get bypass his lead hand and make him overcommit. With Floyd's constantly pawing in front of his face and blinding his frontal vision, Manny would get a bit more anxious/reckless to try to move to Floyd's right in order to set up his lead straight left or 1-2 attack, and Floyd can easily anticipate his sudden movement and beat him to the punch with a straight right upstairs. Floyd has relied on his reflexes for years, but the lead hand measure technique is a great way to anticipate an oncoming attack. I just think it's dangerous/reckless to constantly drop your lead hand when you're fighting a dynamic volume puncher like Manny who can lunge in with a right hook/cross left combo at any time he wants. He has nothing to keep him occupy on the way in. At least with the lead hand on his face, you'll be able to have enough time to react in time/anticipate/counter his attack and use his forward aggression against him.

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            Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
            If you throw a high stiff jab or high flicking jab like you're aiming at his forehead, it's hard for a southpaw to counter over it with a right hook.











            If Floyd is constantly using his lead hand as a pawing/flicking jab to measure the distance and keep Manny occupy momentarily like in this gif, he can easily set up his offense downstairs or upstairs, and still be able to anticipate Manny's attack. I have a hard time picturing Manny countering over Floyd's lead hand if he constantly uses it this way to set his offense. Manny would have no choice but to side-step out to another angle or back up in a straight line.

            Bottom line, Manny isn't effective at fighting while backing up, and Floyd can systematically cut the ring off and walk him down behind the lead hand/measuring jab as he did against, Ortiz. Floyd is also very accurate with his own left hook counter over a southpaw's right hook, so I think he'll figure out a way to deal with Manny's right hook, but the bottom line is, Floyd shouldn't give Manny any openings if he doesn't have to. Floyd needs to make his reach count.

            He should force Manny to get bypass his lead hand and make him overcommit. With Floyd's constantly pawing in front of his face and blinding his frontal vision, Manny would get a bit more anxious/reckless to try to move to Floyd's right in order to set up his lead straight left or 1-2 attack, and Floyd can easily anticipate his sudden movement and beat him to the punch with a straight right upstairs. Floyd has relied on his reflexes for years, but the lead hand measure technique is a great way to anticipate an oncoming attack. I just think it's dangerous/reckless to constantly drop your lead hand when you're fighting a dynamic volume puncher like Manny who can lunge in with a right hook/cross left combo at any time he wants. He has nothing to keep him occupy on the way in. At least with the lead hand on his face, you'll be able to have enough time to react in time/anticipate/counter his attack and use his forward aggression against him.
            Totally agree. Well, not totally but with your initial point. I thought you were inferring that Mayweather needed to throw the lead right more because he can't use his jab to the body as much.

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              Originally posted by Hype job View Post
              Pacquiao will easily lead with his left hand. Just like he did against Oscar and many others, Mayweather isn vulnerable to left leads.
              That doesn't even make sense.

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                  Marquez had success throwing the jab to the body and then throwing the uppercut with the same hand. Then again Marquez is crazy enough to try that.

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                    Other than Morales, no one has really attempted to throw the straight right hand to the body when Pacquiao was backed into a corner and in a defensive shell. The openings were always there too.

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                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                      Marquez had success throwing the jab to the body and then throwing the uppercut with the same hand. Then again Marquez is crazy enough to try that.
                      So did Bradley. He threw the jab to the body well in the first fight.

                      But yes, that straight right to the body will be key methinks.

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