Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[The Big Dunn]

i blame roach.

manny has always been a tough dude before.

i think it was how roach wanted him to fight.

remember jmm 3? he had manny boxing a superior boxer jmm too.

you can't blame roach for this Tua. It's all on Manny. You can't keep blaming all his failures on the other guy.

This is exactly why he walked away 5-6 years ago, Bob knew Manny wouldn't be marketable after this type of performance or a Hatton like KO loss. Maybe he wouldn't let Manny fight Floyd.

But Manny has to wear this.

[Rath]

Marquez' comeback was amazing. Thats a W for him in my book.

But what JMM did was more adjusting to Manny then figuring him out.

JMM still took way too much punishment from Manny to say he figured him out.

I said it 4x and i will say it again.

The only adjustment Marquez made was that foot stomping.

[Hype job]

I didn't suggest otherwise.

That version of Pacquaio was still the second best fighter in the world and the guy alot of you said Floyd was scared of and would lose to. You knew that before the fight yet after the fight its being used as an excuse.

Is Floyd passed it? Is Floyd old? It's delusion to suggest otherwise to that aswell.

It's all about momentum. Both fighters are to blame for it not happening when it should have but that KO was the nail in the coffin.

I'm not saying Pac would have won back then either, I always viewed it as a close fight 60/40 Floyd, but pre Marquez 4 Pac would have gone for the kill and thrown caution to the wind if he was unable to close the gap, he could have gotten TKO'd but it would have been a more impressive showing than Saturday's performance.

He was tentative against Bradley and was stunned at points, Floyd was the hardest hitter he faced since the KO.

A tentative anyone vs Floyd is a nightmare, Pac's recklessness was his greatest undoing in 2012 but it was his best shot against Floyd.

[Left Hook Tua]

His fans are cool. Tua and a few others have called it as it is. Even Ryannn (which has actually shocked me) They're fans of the sport.

It's the fan boys that are acting ******ed. I don't even need to name them.

Pacquaio acting the way he is actually hurts me. I struggled to watch the post fight interview it was so unbelievably embarrassing for him I could barely watch.

pac talk is heavily scripted by tr.

i wouldn't be surprised if they told him prefight to claim robbery if he lost by decision.

set up a rematch and all....

of course they weren't expecting such a lopsided decision.

[The Big Dunn]

Pacquiao and Roach's biggest mistake was that they didn't listen to my advice.

I know Roach reads these boards, I was saying Manny should come in 148 so he's lighter and faster, 152 is a disgrace and unprofessional.

Throw caution to the wind and sell out if you can't catch him, but alas Pac was already almost killed so why risk it again? He has nothing more to prove.

No Hype Job, Manny has to wear this. He fought with no honor, no courage, no respect for the sport. He fought solely for the check. He embarrassed himself with the delusional post fight interview and the putrid excuse making at the press conference. He even had to lean over to Koncz to get an answer to a question because he knew the shoulder BS was a lie.

Can't blame anyone else. Manny showed the world his true character in the ring Saturday night and after in the presser. It's time you and others on this board hold him accountable as boxing fans.

Manny hurt all of us who really love this sport with how he conducted himself Saturday.

[Rath]

Newsflash, in boxing there are no excuses.

so why is there no video of Floyd's random drug test by USADA in his fight against Pac?

any logical explanation?

no excuses you say?

[The Big Dunn]

Marquez' comeback was amazing. Thats a W for him in my book.

But what JMM did was more adjusting to Manny then figuring him out.

JMM still took way too much punishment from Manny to say he figured him out.

How much better does JMM look now? How much better does Floyd's win over JMM look now? It's time we celebrate those who work on perfecting their skill.

[Hype job]

you can't blame roach for this Tua. It's all on Manny. You can't keep blaming all his failures on the other guy.

This is exactly why he walked away 5-6 years ago, Bob knew Manny wouldn't be marketable after this type of performance or a Hatton like KO loss. Maybe he wouldn't let Manny fight Floyd.

But Manny has to wear this.

Look I know you hate Manny and his fans but be honest.

Did you expect him to sell out and go for the kill after such a horrendous KO loss against Marquez where he was almost killed?

The humiliation would have been to great and not to mention the thought of being put out like that again must be terrifying, I genuinely thought he was dead, it's amazing he even came back from it.

If Marquez 4 never happened Pac would have thrown caution to the wind, but the KO changed him, as it would any other big name fighter.

[Left Hook Tua]

you can't blame roach for this Tua. It's all on Manny. You can't keep blaming all his failures on the other guy.

This is exactly why he walked away 5-6 years ago, Bob knew Manny wouldn't be marketable after this type of performance or a Hatton like KO loss. Maybe he wouldn't let Manny fight Floyd.

But Manny has to wear this.

the gameplan was roach.

a different gameplan probably wouldn't have mattered but this one was roach.

like i said, roach had him try to box jmm3 too. which was also ******.

[The Big Dunn]

Damn man I'm still hurt. Can't believe Floyd beat manny like that man

You know, at least you are an adult. Please give some of your maturity to clowns like Rath.

Serious question, did you watch press conference after fight? If so, how did you as a Manny fan feel about that?