Was Lucian Bute damaged goods when he fought Pascal?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

lol Ward has never ducked anyone, all the way up from his amateur career, he's been a warrior.


Bute wanted the fight in Canada or Europe, under his terms. The media was over hyping Bute like crazy, their great hope, they had him ranked #1 at SMW, claimed he was the best.

This despite Ward coming off the Super 6 tournament dominating all his opposition, even dominating Froch with a broken hand. Ward felt insulted, anyone in his position would, Bute didn't earn the right to call anything.

He told Bute fight an elite fighter and I'll fight you, Bute took the test, failed miserably.

Blatant lie. He was willing to do the fight in OAKLAND. He went to Nottingham for Froch.

Ward should have taken that fight. It was one of the biggest in boxing at the time and he doesn't get credit for what Froch did to Bute.

[IronDanHamza]

This f@ggot is still upset that his bum hero got his bootay loosened by the Cobra

Beyond pathetic.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Beyond pathetic.

Before the fight he was saying that Bute would get robbed in Nottingham or it would be a "British stoppage"

Then afterwards, it's PEDs. Seriously, you can't beat one of Freedom's bum ass heroes legitimately. They are just too good.

[Dr Rumack]

Certainly looked it. Couldn't pull the trigger at all.

[MDPopescu]

Look...

People who really know boxing know that Bute's main problem is not really his chin or his punch resistance but his inside game.

He doesn't know how to defend himself on the inside. He doesn't catch punches, uses his elbows, roll effectively with punches, hold effectively, buy time etc ...

He has no clue of how to lead an offence from the inside.

It is like out of 12 chapters on how to be a boxer, Bute's trainer skip a whole chapter.

Bute only fights from one distance and it has always been the same one. On the distance perspective, he really is unidimensional.

[Humean]

Bute against Pascal was about as clear a case as you're likely to see of a fighter low on confidence and fighting with debilitating fear.

[New England]

lucian bute is the most overrated fighter of the last 10 years

other than carl froch.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

lucian bute is the most overrated fighter of the last 10 years

other than carl froch.

Why didn't Andre Ward make that easy money and fight him then?

[New England]

Blatant lie. He was willing to do the fight in OAKLAND. He went to Nottingham for Froch.

Ward should have taken that fight. It was one of the biggest in boxing at the time and he doesn't get credit for what Froch did to Bute.

@ you acting like you'd credit the win the same if it were ward.

"bute was a great win."
exit union jack.
"bute was a bum."

[New England]

Why didn't Andre Ward make that easy money and fight him then?

there's a lot to consider. for one, it was made clear early on that lucian bute wasn't going to get a free shot at the winner of the super six, and he shouldn't.



do you think ward would have "ducked" bute if he beat froch? that's when you call it a duck, not when the brits overrate the hell out of somebody as a byproduct of their resentment of an american fighter who embarrassed them.


there are also ward's injuries to consider. he broke two bones in his hand before the froch fight, and he'd had a damaged right shoulder from his days as an amateur.


joe louis and muhammad ali both had long layoffs in the middle of their carers. robinson, too. prince ward is just like these men. some of the nagging injuries that come with an entire lifetime in boxing won't go away between training camps.


ward's slave contract with goossen may have provided the time ward needed to recover, and become a legend. he'll be stronger, more seasoned. he stayed rich.

you all stayed furious, clearly. i'm right back where i need to be. it's too bad froch ****** so bad in the fight, or we'd have a lucrative rematch that an american network would actually pay to see.