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    #21
    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
    Don't forget when they hated HBO for three or four months too.
    It is really sickening...they were all on Showtimes jock when Manny went there to fight Shane...They are more transparent then x-rays

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      #22
      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
      I am trying to see who the hell his fans are..all i see is his haters who dont know jack **** about him posting all day and crying over him doing the same **** everyone else is doing
      I understand , I see the divide. I talk **** about Floyd but I TRY to keep Haymon and Sho time detached from that, and for the most part I do. I do slam Haymon because his roster is loaded and ain't none of them fighting each other. In particular his WW roster. They should be having one if the best WW tournament s in the history of boxing

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        #23
        Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
        I understand , I see the divide. I talk **** about Floyd but I TRY to keep Haymon and Sho time detached from that, and for the most part I do. I do slam Haymon because his roster is loaded and ain't none of them fighting each other. In particular his WW roster. They should be having one if the best WW tournament s in the history of boxing
        i agree.............

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          #24
          Damn this thread got owned so quick wow

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            #25
            Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
            The same posters i see always trying to slam Haymon are the same posters i see slamming Showtime and the same ones who use to slame Goldneboy and the exact same ones who always slam Floyd...just admit ya'll hate anything attached to Floyd..hell ya'll even hate on ****ing USADA cause Floyd brought them in....It is really ****** and ridiculous..but hate on and enjoy your fellow haters who blindly agree with you...
            No it's you that makes everything about Floyd.

            The reason people slam Al Haymon is because he doesn't make fights people want to see. The only exception is a mandatory and even then there's is no guarantee.

            Haymon has always been about maximizing paydays with the lowest risk possible. He did this when Greenberg was head of HBO and now he's doing it with Showtime now that Greenberg is gone and Espinoza is at Showtime. Fans are tired of the BS. Just look at the horrible year Haymon put together on Showtime in 2014. Absolutely embarrassing. Has nothing to do with Floyd and everything to do with subpar boxing cards. There is no excuse the man has over a hundred fighters signed to him and yet we keep getting showcase fights after showcase fights.

            And it's not about HBO vs Showtime it's about who is buying good fights. When Hershman was with Showtime they constantly had the Fights of the Year even though they had little money. And for the most part he buys quality fights on HBO, despite half of f ucking boxing being signed to Haymon.

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              #26
              Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
              No it's you that makes everything about Floyd.

              The reason people slam Al Haymon is because he doesn't make fights people want to see. The only exception is a mandatory and even then there's is no guarantee.

              Haymon has always been about maximizing paydays with the lowest risk possible. He did this when Greenberg was head of HBO and now he's doing it with Showtime now that Greenberg is gone and Espinoza is at Showtime. Fans are tired of the BS. Just look at the horrible year Haymon put together on Showtime in 2014. Absolutely embarrassing. Has nothing to do with Floyd and everything to do with subpar boxing cards. There is no excuse the man has over a hundred fighters signed to him and yet we keep getting showcase fights after showcase fights.

              And it's not about HBO vs Showtime it's about who is buying good fights. When Hershman was with Showtime they constantly had the Fights of the Year even though they had little money. And for the most part he buys quality fights on HBO, despite half of f ucking boxing being signed to Haymon.
              Bravo man. You can have my first born.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                No it's you that makes everything about Floyd.

                The reason people slam Al Haymon is because he doesn't make fights people want to see. The only exception is a mandatory and even then there's is no guarantee.

                Haymon has always been about maximizing paydays with the lowest risk possible. He did this when Greenberg was head of HBO and now he's doing it with Showtime now that Greenberg is gone and Espinoza is at Showtime. Fans are tired of the BS. Just look at the horrible year Haymon put together on Showtime in 2014. Absolutely embarrassing. Has nothing to do with Floyd and everything to do with subpar boxing cards. There is no excuse the man has over a hundred fighters signed to him and yet we keep getting showcase fights after showcase fights.

                And it's not about HBO vs Showtime it's about who is buying good fights. When Hershman was with Showtime they constantly had the Fights of the Year even though they had little money. And for the most part he buys quality fights on HBO, despite half of f ucking boxing being signed to Haymon.

                NATAS just came in and ended the thread.

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                  #28
                  Larry always making everything about floyd

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                    The same posters i see always trying to slam Haymon are the same posters i see slamming Showtime and the same ones who use to slame Goldneboy and the exact same ones who always slam Floyd...just admit ya'll hate anything attached to Floyd..hell ya'll even hate on ****ing USADA cause Floyd brought them in....It is really ****** and ridiculous..but hate on and enjoy your fellow haters who blindly agree with you...
                    You are the one who involves Floyd in every decision you make in boxing. My hate for Haymon and Showtime has nothing to do with Floyd. They are giving fighters huge incentive to fight trash fights, that is my problem with Haymon and Showtime. I loved Showtime in 2013 when they were actually putting on competitive fights. 2014 it became the Al Haymon showcase network. You only defend Haymon and Showtime due to their association with Floyd. God knows it can't be for the matches they are putting on.

                    The man is so powerful he could single handedly give the fans 95% of the mythical matchups NSB users put together, yet he hasn't given us one fight we wanted this year. HBO consistently put on better, more competitive fights this year with about half the talent. The reason? They will actually ****ing say no to a fight! Stop with the garbage and call a spade a spade. Haymon is great for his fighters but absolutely horrific for fans. Stop defending him just bc he's floyd's boy and he "gets his fighters paid doe." Getting a fighter paid for trash fights gives them no incentive to fight the good fights. (the proof is in this year's product)

                    Like I said, he single handedly has the power to make boxing good this year. However it would be a complete 180 from what he does now. Right now he seems to actively avoid giving the public the fights they want.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by rostov papa View Post
                      the difference is, they are promoters - haymon is supposed to be just a manager, yet the contracts fighters sign with him, gives him so much power.

                      He literally held the power over deontay wilder's decision whether or not to accept that great deal the camel's new company was offering him.

                      Would have guaranteed hm like eight figures over the next 2-3 years.

                      Now if he actually is hiding a china chin, and gets sparked by stiverne, he can kiss future million dollar fights goodbye for a while.
                      this!!!!!!

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