Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

[SplitSecond]

What is Algeri better at taking punches, looking pretty, enunciating better?

i believe the answer your looking for is in my post

[Deevel916]

Ortiz got through with a 3 combo, Judah too.... both southpaws. His defence ain't so special against southpaws. He also opens up more against southpaws which leaves him vulnerable against someone like Manny.

This is true. The shoulder roll defense isn't effective against southpaws. Floyd will have to fight Pac from the high guard stance.

[Deevel916]

The entire opening content of this thread was stolen word for word from another boxing forum. The guy who made the thread here did not site the author. The original author posted here and asked you to stop posting this. Nothing has been done. The original author wrote a great piece that is better than 99% of the **** editorials on any boxing site.

BS needs to delete this thread asap. What they should really do is offer the original author some money to publish his thoughts as an opinion article. But allowing some neophyte poster to steal his content is not the way to do this.

I realize this is the net and I could have it all wrong but the facts are as described above from what I am seeing.

So what!? Its still a good read. Stop crying about it like a damn woman on the rag.

[El_Feroz82]

I'd have to say this is the best Floyd/Manny thread I've seen on ANY site in a long time. Most of the talk is actually about BOXING and not everone has to agree, but at least we aren't dragging promoters and PPV buys into it.

Cheers!

[MayMosPeaHop]

Ortiz got through with a 3 combo, Judah too.... both southpaws. His defence ain't so special against southpaws. He also opens up more against southpaws which leaves him vulnerable against someone like Manny.

No they did not - show it - FMJ's defense is excellent against Soouthpaws.

Corley landed - 23% 150 - 657

Mitchell landed - 11% 31 - 274

Judah landed - 18% 88 - 444

Ortiz landed - 18% 26-148

Guerrero - 19% 113-581

Now stats do not show everything and Manny has a different style. But to say that FMJ is vulnerable to southpaws is crazy. I think Manny fighting style and bad jab is huge problem for him, if they ever make the fight.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

No they did not - show it - FMJ's defense is excellent against Soouthpaws.

Corley landed - 23% 150 - 657

Mitchell landed - 11% 31 - 274

Judah landed - 18% 88 - 444

Ortiz landed - 18% 26-148

Guerrero - 19% 113-581

Now stats do not show everything and Manny has a different style. But to say that FMJ is vulnerable to southpaws is crazy. I think Manny fighting style and bad jab is huge problem for him, if they ever make the fight.

its something that people have taken and ran with just like the whole floyd struggled badly with zab judah badly theory

[The Big Dunn]

This is true. The shoulder roll defense isn't effective against southpaws. Floyd will have to fight Pac from the high guard stance.

How can you argue the defense isn't effective against southpaws? Floyd hasn't lost to a southpaw. The closest was the Castillo 1 fight-which was Floyd's 1st at 135-my guess is the size and power of the opponent were more of an issue than his being a southpaw.

[jas]

No they did not - show it - FMJ's defense is excellent against Soouthpaws.

Corley landed - 23% 150 - 657

Mitchell landed - 11% 31 - 274

Judah landed - 18% 88 - 444

Ortiz landed - 18% 26-148

Guerrero - 19% 113-581

Now stats do not show everything and Manny has a different style. But to say that FMJ is vulnerable to southpaws is crazy. I think Manny fighting style and bad jab is huge problem for him, if they ever make the fight.

Those guys are clearly not A level fighters

Even Larry thinks PAC beats Floyd, it's one thing making your opponent miss but you have to fire back to score points and I truly believe will not take that risk vs pacquaio.

[Strategic1]

If it's close, I'm sure the "what if's" will come out... What if they fought in 2009-2010?

That said, they're still tops in the division and beating younger fighters and champions. We need to see this fight and a fight now is better than no fight at all.

I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THESE INTERNET FORUMS 20-30 YEARS FROM NOW always theoretically asking what would have happened.

Both are champions and still tops, future hall of famers and atg's... I don't see anyone else in the horizon reaching their levels. Might be a while.

Floyd needs to #FightPacquiao. Make it happen May 2015. Anyone disagreeing and making excuses can GTFO.

[Deevel916]

How can you argue the defense isn't effective against southpaws? Floyd hasn't lost to a southpaw. The closest was the Castillo 1 fight-which was Floyd's 1st at 135-my guess is the size and power of the opponent were more of an issue than his being a southpaw.

Ask Floyd Sr. He stated the same thing. The shoulder roll defense wasn't designed to be effective against southpaws. Sure Floyd beat them all but he's had trouble with them. Judah was able to land some nice straight lefts right down the middle on Floyd and we all know that straight left is Pacquiaos money punch.