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Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

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    #91
    I can agree that Mayweather and Marquez have their differences and similarities, and I do think Manny would have some success against Mayweather. If you're hanging your hat on reach doesn't matter, you're in for a big surprise.

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      #92
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      Draw two circles, one smaller than the other at what angle does that smaller circle cross the center of the larger circle without the center of the smaller circle entering the larger circle itself.

      Or can Manny move across a larger distance faster than Floyd can pivot, but unless he forces Floyd to reset that is not possible. Making a lesser guy reset like Margarito or even Bradley is one thing Floyd is usually in position to work and gets into that position lighting quick.

      There is no magic trick that Manny can do that will change this, Manny one hope is he is too much man for Floyd and that Floyd can't stop him from getting to his spot and once he get there Floyd can do nothing to get him off that space.
      Point being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Evol View Post
        Point being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
        of course manny will hit floyd, he will land!!! its just that his defese is his offense

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          #94
          Originally posted by TMTForever View Post
          What is this garbage? Pointing out a fighter's flaws is one thing, but ridiculing one of the best fighters of our era is preposterous. Despite Manny's perceived flaws, he's still one of the baddest fighters out there. The clown who put this vid together can talk all of the **** he wants, but I bet he isn't even fit to carry Manny's spit bucket.

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            #95
            Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
            I can agree that Mayweather and Marquez have their differences and similarities, and I do think Manny would have some success against Mayweather. If you're hanging your hat on reach doesn't matter, you're in for a big surprise.
            I dont think anyone has even mention that reach won't matter. We're saying floyd is not the only fighter pac has fought with a longer reach. If u guys think speed and angle doesn't matter then u too are in for a big suprise.

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              #96
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
              Why are you putting words in my mouth? This is why people can't have a cordial debate because you imagine what I say instead of what I actually said.
              Because of how u said it! U make it seem like floyd is untouchable.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Evol View Post
                Point being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
                Very true, Maidana hit Floyd with more punches than we are accustomed to seeing Floyd get hit with, and In my opinion, Maidana Is much slower than Pacquiao.

                There Is no question Pacquiao will be able to hit Floyd, and regularly.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
                  i did answer it, saying what if floyd hits and holds, isn't saying much of anything, maidana won plenty of rounds on floyd just trying to hit and hold

                  it's three minutes, at some point pacquiao will adjust, and floyd wont be able to simply go in for the hold, at some point pacquiao will counter floyds punch and floyd could get hit before even making to his hold, other times pacquiao will use his feet and bait floyd forward reaching(he did vs maidana in an occassion) and could clock him, maybe floyd only manages to get a hold of one hand of pacquiao's and pacquiao is free to do what he wants with the other

                  it's three minutes, and this holding and hitting is a broad statement, what it does is limit the exchanges, and this goes for both guys
                  but he's not getting by doing the same sht over and over, pacquiao will fient him and he wont always fall in to be held and he wont be hit everytime mayweather punches

                  this isn't klitschko, a much taller, heavier opponent pushing down on necks, who fights out of a very difference stance just honed for clinching anyone that enters his range, and floyd also has never shown the strength or the wrestling klitschko has shown

                  and pacquiao isn't porter, he's not going to walk into the clinches all the time smothering his work
                  Floyd is a lot longer than Manny and he could essentially Wlad him is that was what he wanted to do. Floyd does a lot of wrestling it is why he he known for the forearm shove thing that is part of his holding (punch, hold, shove, punch, hold), and he really could take it to a higher level.

                  Manny is sloppy and out of position a lot, and out of position guy is not that hard to clinch.

                  I know Manny fans don't like to show Maidana much respect but the guy is actually better at some thing than Manny and that played into the limited success he had.

                  This is just one way for Floyd, while Manny has one way. which is the whole problem for Manny's chances.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Evol View Post
                    Point being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
                    It is a fight and Manny is a great fight so of course he will land some punches.

                    The thing is who is landing more and more effective punches, if Manny is having issues even being in the right range how is he going to be landing a ton of good shots. While he is worried about getting to that spot Floyd will be at work.

                    It is really that simple.

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                      We will see soon enough if team PAc dont walk away..again

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