I can agree that Mayweather and Marquez have their differences and similarities, and I do think Manny would have some success against Mayweather. If you're hanging your hat on reach doesn't matter, you're in for a big surprise.
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Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostDraw two circles, one smaller than the other at what angle does that smaller circle cross the center of the larger circle without the center of the smaller circle entering the larger circle itself.
Or can Manny move across a larger distance faster than Floyd can pivot, but unless he forces Floyd to reset that is not possible. Making a lesser guy reset like Margarito or even Bradley is one thing Floyd is usually in position to work and gets into that position lighting quick.
There is no magic trick that Manny can do that will change this, Manny one hope is he is too much man for Floyd and that Floyd can't stop him from getting to his spot and once he get there Floyd can do nothing to get him off that space.
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Originally posted by Evol View PostPoint being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
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Originally posted by TMTForever View Post
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostI can agree that Mayweather and Marquez have their differences and similarities, and I do think Manny would have some success against Mayweather. If you're hanging your hat on reach doesn't matter, you're in for a big surprise.
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Originally posted by Evol View PostPoint being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
There Is no question Pacquiao will be able to hit Floyd, and regularly.
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View Posti did answer it, saying what if floyd hits and holds, isn't saying much of anything, maidana won plenty of rounds on floyd just trying to hit and hold
it's three minutes, at some point pacquiao will adjust, and floyd wont be able to simply go in for the hold, at some point pacquiao will counter floyds punch and floyd could get hit before even making to his hold, other times pacquiao will use his feet and bait floyd forward reaching(he did vs maidana in an occassion) and could clock him, maybe floyd only manages to get a hold of one hand of pacquiao's and pacquiao is free to do what he wants with the other
it's three minutes, and this holding and hitting is a broad statement, what it does is limit the exchanges, and this goes for both guys
but he's not getting by doing the same sht over and over, pacquiao will fient him and he wont always fall in to be held and he wont be hit everytime mayweather punches
this isn't klitschko, a much taller, heavier opponent pushing down on necks, who fights out of a very difference stance just honed for clinching anyone that enters his range, and floyd also has never shown the strength or the wrestling klitschko has shown
and pacquiao isn't porter, he's not going to walk into the clinches all the time smothering his work
Manny is sloppy and out of position a lot, and out of position guy is not that hard to clinch.
I know Manny fans don't like to show Maidana much respect but the guy is actually better at some thing than Manny and that played into the limited success he had.
This is just one way for Floyd, while Manny has one way. which is the whole problem for Manny's chances.
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Originally posted by Evol View PostPoint being made is that if other fighters can hit floyd, so can manny. Never said anything about how easy it will be for manny. I was only pointing out that if floyd can be hit by these slower less skill fighters then manny will be able to hit him also.
The thing is who is landing more and more effective punches, if Manny is having issues even being in the right range how is he going to be landing a ton of good shots. While he is worried about getting to that spot Floyd will be at work.
It is really that simple.
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