Comments Thread For: Arum, CBS CEO Set Meeting on Mayweather-Pacquiao

[George Orwell]

crossing our fingers Floyd DOES NOT beat up another baby mama or get himself arrested between now and the end January 2015

Would be even better if Floyd accepted before X-Mas but hes probably waiting after the Khan-Alexander fight

[The Big Dunn]

I've seen that posted on here as well (regarding the need to surpass 1million buys). I guess the theory stems from the fact that Floyd gets higher guarantee per fight guarantees in the range of $32 million to as has as $40+ million for the Cotto fight.

I've also read, that for the Maidana fights, Floyd got no upside on PPV buys beyond his guaranteed purse...limited payout. I believe these reports are true.
To be guaranteed $32+ million requires higher PPV buy rates to be profitable.

Floyd's deal was also posted in the NYTImes. The money he gets stems from ppv, concessions, movie theater sales and merchandise sales.

As for showtime itself-the contract info posted says both he and Floyd have an out. SO if SHowtime was losing money-they would have exercised the out already.

Just like there is a HUGE difference between being bankrupt and being broke-people think they mean the same thing. Has Showtime exceeded expectations-likely not But that isn't the same as losing money.

[bigjavi973]

Like
10million per pound
New stadium
Smaller ring
24 day cutoff
14day cut off
Need to know when and what time im drug tested
Make sure Pacquiao don't have any cuts this time or u know Bob mite need to have his son in law doctor to tell him Manny cant fight until it heals

[NaSaRiO]

i defend him becoz he told pacquiao not to resign with bob if he wanted the fight and pac clearly decided that he didnt want the fight. he could have done the same thing that cotto did. be free agent get the floyd fight maybe even a rematch then go back to bob if he wanted to but he decided not to take the fight. what people dont understand is that floyd isnt desperate enough to do anything against his will. he is still getting very well paid so you cant push him around. the only way is to accept his demands

but where do you draw the line to stop aceepting someone's demands? maybe something like change your promoter that you are happy and comfortable with just becuse i diss like him!?

I think some fans are so in love with Floyd that they cannot see that asking someone to change their promoter is as silly as asking them to change their trainer (Roach) ... change your promoter is unheard of ever! we have seen Floyd fight Delahoya fighters while he hates him, but Floyd did not mind that knowing he is surely going to win the battle/those fights.

honestly after Manny accepted the extra drug test (just coz Floyd things Manny has done amazing) and accepted the less money split, and ofcourse the venue, date, ring size, gloves ..... i would question anyone's b*lls if they ask Manny to agree and drop his 15 years promoter just to get the fight ... glad manny refused otherwise i would think of him as a Floyd's B**ch .... what's next? change your wife or religion to get a fight with me? lol

[Strategic1]

I think CBS/Showtime is maybe making a little money, just above break even. However, their strategy with Floyd is to help them build a following and build their brand. So they are happy keeping him on board and getting exposure.

They'd love a Floyd-PAC fight for sure.

[leericists]

Showtime has an out in the contract (as does Floyd)-if Floyd is losing them so much money, why haven't they exercised the out? Maybe the fact he has sold over 4 mil ppv's total in the 4 fights shows he isn't losing them money.

tell em my man people dont understand that just with the canelo fight showtime might have got all their investement back or a huge chunk of it

[NaSaRiO]

im far away from saying pac made the wrong choice coz im nowhere near inform enough to make such a statement. all im saying is that pacman made a choice and becoz of his choice the fight will not happen. is it fair of mayweather to ask pac to leave his promoter ? hell no ! is life always fair ? hell no ! does pacquiao promoter force people to sign with his company to fight against pac ala Bradley for exemple ? yes he does ! is that fair ? hell no ! boxing has nothing to do with nfl nba etc... boxing is about power he who has the biggest muscle dictates and its always been that way Don king and Arum are the 1st people responsable for that so i dont feel sorry at all for them coz they are the one who started this bull**** in the first place. Floyd and haymon r just serving them their own medecine

we are not saying life is fair, but I'm suprised that you would blame Manny for not accepting the unrealistic request and in the other hand you are not blaming Floyd for not fighting by requesting unrealistic requests.

in other words you should be blaming Floyd not Manny for the fight not happening by saying "Manny made a choice to stick with Arum" rather than saying Floyd's request is so unrealistic he seems he does not want to fight.

[bigjavi973]

So? You manny fans need to stop it. The only demand that caused the fight not to happen was the OST. once that was resolved, Manny and Bob haven't liked the money split. Agree to a deal, make the fight.

come on bruh dont bull****! First it was osdt, which in reality is not REALLY osdt, 50/50 with a 14 day cut off. Once pac came back and agreed to that, thats when floyd offered 40 mil no ppv revenue. Once pac agreed to that, then he had to leave bob arum, sign to TMT blah blah blah

"but the imaginary stadium doe" "the cut doe" Thats all I hear blah blah blah Ask frampton how an outdoor stadium worked in his fight and are you guys DOCTORS NOW!?

[bigjavi973]

It was only negotiated because Manny was afraid to have his blood tested. thats the same OST rios and algieiri had to take. funny, it didn't stop those mismatches from being made, just like signing to TR didn't stop the Shane or JMM 4 fights from being made.

HAHAHAHAHAHA afraid of blood test??? Did pacquiao agree to the testing? Who wanted the 14 day cut off? And when pac agreed to the 14 day cut off, who had a new demand for testing up until the day of the fight???? New excuses everytime and ya too gassed up to see it.

[DeadLikeMe]

come on bruh dont bull****! First it was osdt, which in reality is not REALLY osdt, 50/50 with a 14 day cut off. Once pac came back and agreed to that, thats when floyd offered 40 mil no ppv revenue. Once pac agreed to that, then he had to leave bob arum, sign to TMT blah blah blah

"but the imaginary stadium doe" "the cut doe" Thats all I hear blah blah blah Ask frampton how an outdoor stadium worked in his fight and are you guys DOCTORS NOW!?

You can't disappear from negotiations for two years and then just expect the exact same terms, that would exhibit zero business acumen on both sides. It would be like Roy Jones Jr. and Hopkins expecting the money they were being offered in the early 2000s for Hopkins-Jones III in 2015. We get it you guys really like Manny and think he deserves whatever he wants. However, things like purse splits aren't determined by who has the most people garbaging up boxing forums. They're based on drawing power and revenue generated.