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    Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
    Look brother its not a big deal. Manny would move heaven and earth for that type of payday right now. He simply has not, and will not see that type of money. PPV or not, Manny needs cash. Lets not get it twisted. If he fought Floyd twice and cut down on his spending he would have been the second richest athlete on the planet. Turning down that offer was ****** if you objectively look at what happened after the fact. Floyd's star power and earning potential took off, Manny got knocked out and saw his brand suffer. It is what it is. Arum and Manny need this fight WAY worse then Floyd does. Why should he have to call them, and speaking of "speculation", the only one claiming that HBO and Showtime are down for this is Arum, no one, and I mean NO ONE FROM EITHER NETWORK HAS CONSIGNED THAT. There is many impediments, including Manny's camp continuing to run their mouths. Shut up, deal with Floyd AFTER you win in a professional setting. Not through the media.
    After the fact

    Yeah exactly. We're talking about real time here not after the fact. At that time, it was a ludicrous offer and everyone knows that.

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      Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
      And where in that article does it state that mayweather or ellerbe where planning on fighting pacquiao? Its not there. Nice try though.
      But what is there is Bob dropping excuses for Pac not to fight Floyd.

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        Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
        And where in that article does it state that mayweather or ellerbe where planning on fighting pacquiao? Its not there. Nice try though.
        It is why Arum saying the fight can't be May 5th after Floyd got out of going to jail specifically so he could fight on May 5th. With the court saying saying there will be no more and he better do what he says (I can find this also if you want to call this speculation).

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          Ok i have a meeting to attend so im out

          Arum is just promoting right now like he always does. If he still talks and trys to actually call floyds team after Pac fight then ok ill say hes trying but till then he still spinning the masses and Pac fans/Floyd haters are eating it up.

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            Originally posted by balintawak View Post
            If there was money that was ever owed to Floyd, then there should have been some kind of litigation. But if Floyd honestly feels that he was ripped-off by Bob and feels that he can't prove it in court, then put this issue on the current round of negotiations.

            The point is, confront him like a man. He's supposed to be a elite fighter and super businessman, but he can't even face this over 80 year old senior citizen?
            Bob is a known racist who doesn't look at Hispanics and Blacks as equal. He was famously quoted in the past saying "let the Mexicans and blacks fight, and we'll make money off it". Today the most powerful men in the sport, that promote fighters and manage fighters are Hispanic and Black. Notice who Arum "can not do business with". Also people need to stop looking at Mayweather as just a fighter at this point, he's trying to build his own promotional brand. He's not just the talent being featured but also had his hands in the whole process when it comes to his last couple fights.

            Mayweather can promote the fight under his banner, just like Goldenboy did with the Lomachenko-Russell Jr. fight. Bob Arum wasn't involved in that fight although that was one of his fighters, he easily stepped aside. So why is it so difficult for him to stop being in the way of this fight? Because he's upset that his business is losing and that Mayweather is *****ing him. Just like Goldenboy became a major promo company after hosting Mayweather-De La Hoya, Mayweather is trying to do the same. Why should he let his name build up other brands instead of his own? Why is Bob Arum so greedy and spiteful that he won't let Manny get his biggest payday and be able to pay off some debts? Also why should Mayweather let some old racist get wealthier off him, who always throwing dirt on his name?

            Everyone knows Arum is the reason the fight isn't happening so people need to either wait him out until he die or complain all over the world for his to step aside like he did for Lomachenko-Russell and other fights Goldenboy hosted that had Top Rank fighters.
            Last edited by Slick Veteran; 09-22-2014, 12:21 PM.

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              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              After the fact

              Yeah exactly. We're talking about real time here not after the fact. At that time, it was a ludicrous offer and everyone knows that.
              It was not a bad offer, please explain why it was.

              The most two fighters ever split to that point was just a shade over 80 million for Oscar-Floyd.

              Half the biggest amount that has even been split between fighters is not a terrible offer especially to start off.

              How much did you expect Manny to make? The fighters would have to be in line to split well beyond 100 million which is 25% beyond the biggest fight ever to that point.

              Still the bad thing was not turnign down that offer, a first offer is never the best offer, but when you really want to make a deal do you know what you do, try to work it out. You know what you don't do, talk about why that offer was not good enough laughing it off out of hand. The fact you accept the laughing it off out of hand shows how biased you are.

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                When did Pacquiao all of sudden have a shot to beat Floyd. What did I miss? I tried to tell you idiots that a Maidana rematch would go just like it did and now you want to see him bend over Manny and embarrass him? Why?

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                  Originally posted by bimhead View Post
                  well,may be there is the potential to pay him a step aside style fee?
                  Let's hope so! It should've been done (Arum taking a step aside fee) a long time ago.

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                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                    It was not a bad offer, please explain why it was.

                    The most two fighters ever split to that point was just a shade over 80 million for Oscar-Floyd.

                    Half the biggest amount that has even been split between fighters is not a terrible offer especially to start off.

                    How much did you expect Manny to make? The fighters would have to be in line to split well beyond 100 million which is 25% beyond the biggest fight ever to that point.

                    Still the bad thing was not turnign down that offer, a first offer is never the best offer, but when you really want to make a deal do you know what you do, try to work it out. You know what you don't do, talk about why that offer was not good enough laughing it off out of hand. The fact you accept the laughing it off out of hand shows how biased you are.
                    Explain how not getting a cut of the biggest PPV revenue of all time is a bad offer?

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                      Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R View Post
                      When did Pacquiao all of sudden have a shot to beat Floyd. What did I miss? I tried to tell you idiots that a Maidana rematch would go just like it did and now you want to see him bend over Manny and embarrass him? Why?
                      Floyd winning UD was the expected outcome if you know anything about boxing but what wasn't expected was seeing Floyd supposedly "lose a step" according to the manner in which he won the fight.

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