Comments Thread For: Arum: I Don't Think Mayweather Ever Fights Pacquiao

[The Gambler1981]

I could see it on the cards within the next five years. Thomas Hauser's probably got a spare room full of indexed notes on the matter.

Then I could say I would almost certainly not agree with the book.

[jayblack]

how come the first few comments are always Flowmos in these type of threads?

Do they just lurk on here waiting for a moment to pounce? they are always the first replies.

Anyway there are two people who don't want the fight, Mayweather and Arum.

If Arum doesn't want the fight then that means Pac doesn't want the fight. Because Pac constantly says "it's up to my promoter" then he clearly agrees with whatever Arum says.

Why is it that Canelo can give his promoter orders about who he wants to fight and when he wants to fight and his promoter tries to get it done. Meaning that his promoter works for him. But Pac the only thing Pac does is exactly what his promoter says. So he works for his promoter.

[soul_survivor]

Fight is guaranteed next year, quote me on that!

[jayblack]

Mayweather wanted the fight right up til Pacquiao destroyed Hatton. Then he said OMG!!! and never wanted the fight again. Personally I think Manny should have given up chasing him years ago. History will know what happened, even if some posters here don't.

When did Pac ever chase Floyd for a fight? Talking about it in the media then walking away from negotiations and then hanging up on Floyd don't exactly make it sound like he was chasing Floyd.

[Jsmooth9876]

If Floyd won't fight southpaws then what were Ortiz and Guerrero? Are they not southpaws? Arum is so full of Sugar Honey Iced Tea

Oh yeah, they're called bums...

[jayblack]

pacquiao is the number 1 fighter of top rank. why would pacquiao leave top rank specially when he is also near retirement. when pacs is reaching out to mayweather it could have help if floyd is more accommodating.

When has Pac ever reached out to Floyd?

[jayblack]

Its probably true, Floyd has a career with very few southpaws. But I don't know if Pacquiao is getting past Algeri, so it may be a moot point anyways.

Most careers have very few southpaws. How many southpaws has Pac, Cotto, Garcia, BHop, or Marquez faced?

[jayblack]

manny is under contract of top rank. the best they can do is leave arum out of negotiation. i dont know if that is good enough for floyd. if manny need to really leave arum to sign up with mayweather then manny will be in hiatus like ward. this is a no win situation for pacquiao. this is an impossible demand from mayweather.

Mayweather recently said that if the fight were to happen it Mayweather Promotions would have to be the lead promoter. He didn't say Pac had to leave top rank.
When Mayweather fights, he doesn't leave his promotional company for GBP, but GBP is the lead promotional company.

[jayblack]

If you're a Floyd fan who brings up that Floyd offered Pac $40 million, then you obviously can never be taken seriously and you're just here to defend May and not talk with any credibility...

Just think about calling a fighter directly and offering him less than $60 million of what he had been told he could get for the fight without PPV revenue...

CBS/Showtime made money on one Floyd fight lol... I guess one out of four isn't bad... Amir Khan on a U.S. PPV will do nothing for the numbers either will Keith Thurman... I mean The Ghost wouldn't even fight Thurman because he didn't feel he was a big enough name lol...

I wouldn't be shocked if Floyd retires because he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao without having every advantage in the fight (choosing gloves, referee, etc.)... and there are no other opponents who can get Floyd over 1 Million PPV buys...

If you think that Pac would have made 100 mil for this fight then you can't be taken serious.
How can you defend Pac turning down 40 mil? That's more than he has ever made for a fight. And if he wanted more then why not try to negotiate? He just hung up and never tried to make the fight. No matter how hard you try, you just cant defend that.

[jayblack]

PPV sales actual and projected:

Floyd v. Maidana I = 850K PPVs

Floyd v. Maidana II = Less than 850K PPVs

Projections:

Floyd v. Amir Khan = 600K PPVs

Floyd v. Thurman = 600K PPVS

Floyd v. Molina = 550K PPVs

Floyd v. Pacquiao = 2Million + PPVs

Still make sense for Floyd to duck Pacquiao?

What has Floyd ducked? Pac is not a mandatory nor has Pac made an offer. Hell Pac won't even pick up the phone and call Mayweather to try to make the fight like Floyd did.