Floyd Mayweather vs Shawn Porter - Who you got?

[New England]

He did. And it's definitely not something I'd like to see anymore of. But fighting a guy like Porter, it's really the only option you have.

Ward did fight a good fight vs Froch, I'll give him that. But I still can't forgive him for his fight vs Kessler which was ten times worse than anything Brook did in the Porter fight.

watch that fight again, and try to put kessler's handsome face out of the equation.


turn off the sound and watch their behavior int eh clinches. think about who wants a clinch and a break,, and who wants to keep his hands free and punch.


also, watch ward box his doors off without any head clashes for much fo the fight.


danes and euros have completely rewritten history with that fight. it's absurd. they clearly have only seen it once or twice.

[Evol]

this thread is in direct response to one of the most influential bsceners of all time, me.


floyd and manny are getting old. they are not going to fight forever. freaking marquez knocked manny out. marquez loses to most of the top WW. floyd looked his age against maidana, a limited fighter. floyd joys will lead you to believe that floy dwas on the ropes "becasue he wanted excitement doe." those guys are idiots. floyd was on the ropes because he doesn't have the legs to box from teh center of the ring any longer.

you ugys really need tos tart to recognize that these guys aren't going to fight forever, adn that they're human.

even if porter fought floyd or pac right now he will get blasted out of there. the level of competition is not even close.

[LacedUp]

watch that fight again, and try to put kessler's handsome face out of the equation.


turn off the sound and watch their behavior int eh clinches. think about who wants a clinch and a break,, and who wants to keep his hands free and punch.


also, watch ward box his doors off without any head clashes for much fo the fight.


danes and euros have completely rewritten history with that fight. it's absurd. they clearly have only seen it once or twice.

I have seen it multiple times. With sound, without sound, music playing, watching tv, whilst being half a sleep.. every scenario you could imagine.

Ward did box well, but Kessler was boxing well to begin with as well. Ward didn't have any interest of boxing Kessler, he clinched when it got close and as they broke up he would pot shot him, then clinch again. As the rounds progressed he headbuttet Kessler 5-6 times opening up 3 cuts on both Kessler's eyes, that forced him into retirement shortly after.

It's a bad excuse to blame Kessler for the clinching. It really is. Ward was dirty that night, there's no two ways about it.

[KingKhan1]

styles make fights. i think brook does better against porter than 37 year old mayweather does.

after seeing the brook fight for porter, you obviously take mayweather. that said, the style of porter is better suited for brook, who was tall and strong enough to handle porter in the clinches.


if maidana has mayweather on the ropes, it's a good bet that porter gets him there too.



i also want to add that i'm allowing brits to enjoy their win. brook is a good fighter, and he pulled off a great win. i'm not going to mention yet that you're all now fans of the andre ward style of boxing, because that MFER brook freaking clinches.


next time ward is out, celebrate him. he does what brook did on a much higher level, and he's a less prolific clincher. brook tied a man up and walked him to the ropes, hoping for a break. ward walks a man to the ropes with the intent to work. there's a difference. i'm not saying that i flag eithe rman for it, i just want to make sure it is recognized.

in time, i'll address it furhter. as i've said, i do want the brits to enjoy their win. they don't get them too often on this level.

Comparing ward to brook is a bit ridiculous. Holding is holding. Against a wild rugged fighter like Porter its the best way to beat him. Brook was certainly not boring like Ward is. He landed hard clean shots, buzzed Porter a few times as well. Anyone who has watched Kell Brook before this fight knows he is nothing like Andre Ward. The fight Kell fought was not his preferred style but it was what he had to do. In the future against more traditional types of boxers you will see his power. Although if i was him i would avoid Thurman like the plague, that guy can ****.

[KingKhan1]

even if porter fought floyd or pac right now he will get blasted out of there. the level of competition is not even close.

Neither would KO Porter. Manny's power has gone and Floyd never had it to begin with. They would win UD's.

[LacedUp]

loser/winner doesnt matter. when porter beat paulie the same shiiet got posted. fighters are being hyped after 1 ok win, etc.

Can't argue with that.

[KingKhan1]

watch that fight again, and try to put kessler's handsome face out of the equation.


turn off the sound and watch their behavior int eh clinches. think about who wants a clinch and a break,, and who wants to keep his hands free and punch.


also, watch ward box his doors off without any head clashes for much fo the fight.


danes and euros have completely rewritten history with that fight. it's absurd. they clearly have only seen it once or twice.

I agree somewhat, Kessler initiated clinches as well as ward, but Ward did headbutt kessler numerous times. He would have won the fight regardless but he was dirty.

[Sparked_26]

Kell definitely had to clinch Porter. Not sure what else Kell was meant to do. Porter was bullstrong especially early in the fight and was rushing in head down literally every 10 seconds. It would be impossible to time him everytime.

I have no doubt Kell turned down viable openings because he knew Porter would still be around at the final bell. If he really put his foot to the pedal you knew he could nail him even with about 3 seconds to go in the fight Kell smashed him with a 1-2 absolutely on the button.

Porter is as tough and as rough as they come. It is an awful match up for Kell. He did so well.

[Evol]

Neither would KO Porter. Manny's power has gone and Floyd never had it to begin with. They would win UD's.

i can see manny scoring a tko over porter and i can see floyd making porter miss and look lost in there. these guys cant compete at the level floyd and pac is at the moment, they're great fighters but thats about it. even the fading version of pac and floyd will still be too much.

[The Big Dunn]

Why do we pretend that the majority of opinions stating shawn would beat Floyd were rooted in real, honest boxing analysis? It no different than the Rios thread.

A couple of posters make valid points. The rest is the usual NSB ridiculousness.