Comments Thread For: What is Al Haymon Planning?

[SamuraiSam]

You're wrong. Everyone is held accountable. Over the years, we've received just as many legal threats to take stuff down as any other top news outlet. Sometimes the material goes down, if the complaint has merit, and most of the time the material in question stays up. Very few pieces have ever gone down. And 9 out of 10 times the legal threat was related to someone making a defamatory statement, on the record, within an article.

We know who some of the sources are for this piece. They are very solid. Hauser himself is a lawyer, he knows what he's doing, which is probably why nobody has ever sued him over an article that he's written. And years ago when he passed on a bad piece of information on this very website, he was man enough to come on here and publicly retract that info.

Well done, BIGPOPPAPUMP. I gain more respect for you with each successive post I see from you. I'm glad to admit I was wrong to initially judge you simply by your avatar. Rock on.

[SamuraiSam]

Damn, Hauser hits it out the park again, great article. There are few writers left who write and elegantly as Hauser and with as much insight into the behind the scenes goings on in boxing. There are too many twitter trolls in boxing these days or guys who have little knowledge of what goes on beyond the ropes. Hauser is a dying breed and this is one of his best pieces yet.

LOL...what a coincidence. We used the same baseball terminology (see my comment #167) in describing what the author has done in writing this article. Great minds think alike!

[moonshineman]

Network

The new Good Ole Boy Network............

[SamuraiSam]

I think this article is great, even if there is some speculation involved. At this point what else can we do but speculate? By the way, see for even more info on this situation. Most knew that there was more to the story than Schaeffer not wanting to work with Arum. Thanks to Mr. Hauser we now have a little more insight into the matter. Oh, so Haymon and Schaeffer were trying to buy out Oscar? Hm. Makes sense now. Anyone calling this trash journalism should try reading the bias nut-huggery they publish on floyd-hype.com, then you will realize that this article is a breathe of fresh air.

Agreed on all points you made. And thanks for the link...another interesting read.

It's kind of sad how Haymon brought this all on himself. We wouldn't have to "speculate" and these articles wouldn't have been written if he had been more open and transparent, instead of hiding in the shady darkness of secrecy.

[SamuraiSam]

The author of this article and the people on here talking bad about Haymon don't know a thing about Haymon......it's that simple......the author talks about laws Haymon 'might' be breaking and shady things he 'could' be doing but other than that the 'indirect' accusations are a bunch of bologne.......sure it was informative but mostly relating to boxing, not much of Haymon, even though the investigative effort is appreciated and the article was well written.....personally what I notice is that all his fighters seem to be gettin payed just fine, i mean back in the day i've read stories of Ken Norton havin 30 fights on his record and not one dollar in his bank account, stories of boxers getting paid a few hundred dollars for ten rounds, Joe Louis retiring broke, Sugar Ray Robinson broke, and so many more.....Lara in 22 fights is the main event on ppv and gettin payed well, Swift (headline in big shows and co-main event on ppv), Matthysse (co-main event on ppv), Arreola (headlined big title fight), John Molina (went from ESPN to Showtime and had a great fight vs Matthysse), Broner (main event vs Maidana, been on ppv), Maidana (going on his second ppv in a row), Austin Trout (on the main even of a PPV) Luis Collazo is a perfect example (signed with Al and fought on ppv)..........the people that work for Al Haymon, get payed by Al Haymon, and know Al Haymon speak great about him and the people that don't know a thing about Al Haymon and have only seen maybe 1 or 2 pictures of him on the internet only talk bad about Al Haymon.........almost forgot to mention Floyd Mayweather is the richest athlete in the world and works with Al Haymon

Way to stand up and represent...another example of the "New Breed" boxing fan. You provided everything from the written illiteracies to the Haymon/TMT catch phrases that hallmark the "New Breed" mentality. Yup..."We be PAID, doe." LOL

It took some searching to remember where I read the article that coined the term "New Breed," for those who don't know what I've been talking about, and I finally found it on an article from *************.com by Sean Crose. You can read it here:



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[SamuraiSam]

Hauser is the best investigative boxing writer in the sport, hands down.

I found the 20 million $ worth of airtime that Haymon wwNts to buy from NBC VERY interesting.

That's a huge investment, the guys that we as fans see as stars, aren't stars to the average sports fan. We have already seen the difference in ratings between hbo and Showtime, Showtime just can't mimic what hbo can do.

Now Haymon wants to buy up airtime to showcase his fighters, and sell the ad space himself. Now this is coming from a guy who has Floyd under his control, the biggest name in the sport, and this guy has NO SPONSORS! Now he is going to sell 20 million $ worth of ad space?

That will be interesting if it happens, that's really the biggest revalation in this article. clearly shows Haymon is desperate to air time.

Even the UFC on regular TV has been a bust, ratings have plummeted.

Like Floyd was telling Ben Thompson on FloydHype.com, he don't need no stinkin' sponsors..."I don't need a Nike check on my back. I don't need a Nike commercial. I don't need a Hennessy commercial"...and he was saying he can build up the TMT brand to be as big as Nike. Or did he say bigger? Anyway, I wish them good luck with that. LOL at the delusion.

[SamuraiSam]

Hauser didn't say one opinionated piece about Haymon, he didn't even say anything bad about Haymon, all he did was give a timeline of what he's done and what he's trying to do.

Learn to read. you Haymon stans are getting defensive for no freaking reason. Because you cant freaking read.

Oh they can read...otherwise they can't write what they do. It's failure at comprehension and intelligent & unbiased interpretation of what they've read that poses the problem.

[SamuraiSam]

The scary smart comment really annoyed me. Hauser is too experienced and talented to have included that to charachterize him.

Again, reading comprehension failure rears its ugly head. That was NOT Hauser's characterization. Read it again...

“Scary smart,” one person who has dealt with him over the years calls him.

Would the writer phrase the sentence with the part that follows after the comma in the way he did if that was his own characterization of the man? No...he's just repeating a description attributed to Hymen by a third person, that's why he put that person's words in quotations. It's NOT a first person opinion.

That's the problem with some Floydiots versus the true intelligent Floyd fans who I do respect. Failure at reading comprehension inflames their passionate biases for the wrong reasons, because of their own failure to understand what they've read. Just miscomprehend something and run with it like fools.

On a side note, when I read your prior comment to which hitking replied, I knew what you were subtly hinting at but at least had a little more conscience than to blatantly state it. I had to Google what HNIC means. Count on your good ol' buddy hitking to come out and say it for you, playing the race card. LOL

'Nuff said.

[SamuraiSam]

You guys are way beyond fans, you guys are groupies it's like a cult. When Floyd was in HBO, HBO was the best network ever, even Broner called himself mr HBO, now Showtime it's the best network ever in a couple of months it will be CBS. GBP was the best promotional company until Oscar stood up to Shaffer and Haymon. Now GBP is trash, and you guys are still waiting for Floyd/Haymon next step in order to support the next best promotional company ( it will be Whichever company Floyd and Haymon are involved with). It's time to fill the void in our lives with the financial sucess of complete strangers. When I watch espn classic I don't care about what car Duran drove, his pay or ratings. You guys are obsessed with numbers anything not boxing related it's like a reality show keeping up with the Mayweathers. The only thing that concerns me is that we are not getting the fights that we want to see. Mares vs Gonsalez, Broner vs Maidana or Garcia vs Matyss. We are not getting these fights even with the rematch clauses. I think it's good for boxing if this new promotional company works with the others. If not more that a new boxing's ufc type of company we will finish with a boxing's wwe type of company. It doesn't matter if you have all the talent if you are reluctant to make them fight each other and don't want to share profits with other promoters.

Good points made. This "new breed" of so-called boxing fans are not about demanding to see the best fight the best, with collaboration between promoters and networks to produce those fights. It's the cult of "Money, Power..." and the superficial "Respect" they confer on their idols for achieving the first two. They're the so-called fans supporting the Haymon/TMT agenda of demanding the highest possible payday for the least amount of risk. It's only about the money, "GETTIN' PAID" and flashing the bling bling.

[Mindrapist]

Most of those fights are absolute **** homie, come on. I mean seriously Khan vs Collozo and Mattyse vs Molina, those fights were supposed to be easy fights. Then when they get easy fights and look like **** they get EASIER fights like the ENTIRE Garcia/Salka card. I meant meaningful fights to the sport, we haven't gotten May/Pac because of this **** and we get the same rehashed fights because they won't do business with anyone else. Obviously, they have to fight at some point, but I don't want built talent, I want MADE talent that's who the real champions are. Don't force feed me 5 fights with bums then 1 super fight, it should be the opposite if you want me to pay ONLY for boxing.

Garcia-Matthyse?

And no, they weren't supposed to be easy fights. Matthyse was coming off a loss. Khan-Collazo was a pick 'em fight. Be honest here.

Besides, even if they were ****ty fights! that wasn't the point anyway. You said he wouldn't match his guys -- never mind the fact that it's only recently he's even had enough guys to do so -- and said he had only done so three times in 14 years.

That was incorrect, whether you found those fights ****ty or not. (And the aforementioned fights were pretty meaningful. Garcia-Matthyse was for 140 supremacy, B-Hop-Shumenov was a historic unification fight where a record was set, Porter-Paulie was Porter's coming-out party...)

I damn near showed you three fights in one night.

And be honest here. Those weren't crappy fights. You're just saying that because you want to prove a point.

Why do you really dislike him? Change resistance? The unknown? Bigotry? I'm trying to understand because logically speaking your criticism of him not matching his fighters is utterly unfounded.