Comments Thread For: Jessie Vargas 'No Coward,' Joins The Fight Against PEDs

[tangalog2200]

What does Mayweather have to do with random year-round testing and/or VADA? About as much as he still has to do with Jessie Vargas' career.

Since this article is about Jessie Vargas, and fighters enrolled in year-round testing, no Mayweather does not get a mention.

Funny you mention him, though. He no longer forces the issue with random drug-testing with his opponents, as if the whole thing was to save face for the failed negotiaitons with Pacquiao - lasted long enough to make it seem as if he takes a stance.

He has NEVER demanded his own fighters submit to random testing - I even asked Floyd, Ellerbe and Schaefer on the subject back when he first enrolled in USADA (and when Vargas was still fighting for Mayweather Promotions), and got nothing but stutters and non-answers in response. Even after his fighters were popped, still nothing. In fact, he parades around J'Leon Love as the future of the sport, without holding him to any kind of standards.

Even back then, Vargas was on record saying he was willing to submit to random testing. Now that he has a belt, he's willing to lead by example. Nobody would notice if he didn't enroll, so the fact that he's doing so voluntarily should be applauded.

Finally, USADA has taken it on the chin in the years since being "introduced" to the boxing world, to where it's hard to lend credibility to their program. WADA as a whole? Sure. But not USADA and its "standards" in boxing.

also to be considered is who pays these tests specially during off times - meaning when there's no fights yet on the horizon...since the tests are 24/7/365....

and we have usada wada vada etc etc...who determines what agency to do the test?

and what about fighters not usa based? on pr, uk, phil japan mexico etc etc...

[BoxingIsGreat]

What does Mayweather have to do with random year-round testing and/or VADA? About as much as he still has to do with Jessie Vargas' career.

Since this article is about Jessie Vargas, and fighters enrolled in year-round testing, no Mayweather does not get a mention.

Funny you mention him, though. He no longer forces the issue with random drug-testing with his opponents, as if the whole thing was to save face for the failed negotiaitons with Pacquiao - lasted long enough to make it seem as if he takes a stance.

He has NEVER demanded his own fighters submit to random testing - I even asked Floyd, Ellerbe and Schaefer on the subject back when he first enrolled in USADA (and when Vargas was still fighting for Mayweather Promotions), and got nothing but stutters and non-answers in response. Even after his fighters were popped, still nothing. In fact, he parades around J'Leon Love as the future of the sport, without holding him to any kind of standards.

Even back then, Vargas was on record saying he was willing to submit to random testing. Now that he has a belt, he's willing to lead by example. Nobody would notice if he didn't enroll, so the fact that he's doing so voluntarily should be applauded.

Finally, USADA has taken it on the chin in the years since being "introduced" to the boxing world, to where it's hard to lend credibility to their program. WADA as a whole? Sure. But not USADA and its "standards" in boxing.

ok, since it was for show, as you implied, floyd doesn't do OST with his opponents? maidana or canelo didn't do it? please enlighten with a proof, mr. journalist.

[JakeNDaBox]

ok, since it was for show, as you implied, floyd doesn't do OST with his opponents? maidana or canelo didn't do it? please enlighten.

What I said was that Floyd made a bigger deal about it once upon a time than has been the case in recent years/fights. Golden Boy uses USADA for its major fights, so yes, Maidana and Alvarez both had to undergo testing.

But let's face it, he's gone a long way from "all my opponents have to undergo testing" to expressing concern over Alex Ariza working with Maidana, even while both were undergoing random drug testing. Perhaps it's because USADA standards are not the same as VADA.

All that said, random testing for a specific fight is not the same as year-round testing. When you fight 1-2 times per year (which is the case with most top fighters today and in the past decade or so), the ability to catch a dirty fighter is greatly reduced.

[BoxingIsGreat]

What I said was that Floyd made a bigger deal about it once upon a time than has been the case in recent years/fights. Golden Boy uses USADA for its major fights, so yes, Maidana and Alvarez both had to undergo testing.

But let's face it, he's gone a long way from "all my opponents have to undergo testing" to expressing concern over Alex Ariza working with Maidana, even while both were undergoing random drug testing. Perhaps it's because USADA standards are not the same as VADA.

All that said, random testing for a specific fight is not the same as year-round testing. When you fight 1-2 times per year (which is the case with most top fighters today and in the past decade or so), the ability to catch a dirty fighter is greatly reduced.

how is vada better than usada? please elaborate.

[JakeNDaBox]

how is vada better than usada? please elaborate.

I already elaborated in my article.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I already elaborated in my article.

that's not an elaboration on anything at all. it's interesting, though, how you link vargas to mayweather, and not to the most famous juicer in the sport, who suddenly decided to use vada (you know who).

anyway, getting a good editor would be a good idea, too. the first two paragraphs were very hard to read. are you a real boxing journalist?

[jso416]

that's not an elaboration on anything at all. it's interesting, though, how you link vargas to mayweather, and not to the most famous juicer in the sport, who suddenly decided to use vada (you know who).

anyway, getting a good editor would be a good idea, too. the first two paragraphs were very hard to read. are you a real boxing journalist?

I think you meant to say "Are" with a capitol A. Are you a real boxing journalist? And why are you so butt hurt over the article anyway?

[BoxingIsGreat]

I think you meant to say "Are" with a capitol A. Are you a real boxing journalist? And why are you so butt hurt over the article anyway?

i was typing in all lowercase, like now.
also, it is CAPITAL, not capitol, as you wrote, smartass.

[DondiNeverLeft]

By Jake Donovan - Merely winning his first major title isn’t enough for Jessie Vargas, who sees more belts and conquests in his future.

Nor does the unbeaten super lightweight wish to toe the line when it comes to the current state of drug testing in boxing. The first defense of his 140 lb. title reign – versus unbeaten Anton Novikov on August 2 in his Las Vegas hometown – will come with the security of random drug testing as conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA).

At least for one fighter.

“I always looked up to top fighters who want to clean up the sport,” Vargas (24-0, 9KOs) said of the decision to enroll in 24/7/365 random drug testing. “It's something to admire. In a sport like this, it needs to be clean. It's a very fun, yet competitive and physical combat sport.

“The fighters should be clean. Any fighter who chooses to do steroids, they're cowards. They don't have confident in their own talent. They can't rely on their own physical attributes so they look for ways to get that advantage.”

The decision comes shortly after dethroning previously unbeaten Khabib Allakhverdiev this past April. The feat came on the undercard of Manny Pacquiao’s return to welterweight prominence, handing Tim Bradley his first loss to avenge a controversial defeat from nearly two years ago. [Click Here To Read More]

.....so then who are the cowards? Or who started the coward label?

[jso416]

i was typing in all lowercase, like now.
also, it is CAPITAL, not capitol, as you wrote, smartass.

Thanks for that Grammar ****.. Maybe I should just be cool like you and just not push down on a cap lock button. Anyhoo.. Where can I read some of your articles?. I'm dying to read the work of a real boxing journalist.