The 5 Best of this Gen: Who has the Best Win?

[soul_survivor]

no he shouldn't and you said it yourself. he has no defining wins aka he didn't beat anyone good therefore he doesn't belong in the same class. hug-beating a lot of bums while dual-reigning with your brother=garbage

he beat Povetkin, considered a legit threat, he beat Haye, another "legit" thread, he beat Peters, someone else who was supposed to be a threat. Wlad has cleared out his entire division, the only one who comes close to that is Froch.

[soul_survivor]

JMM and Cotto should not be ranked alongside Pac, Hopkins and Mayweather, it would be better to include Oscar, RJJ, Lewis, Holyfield, Morales, Barrera or a few otehrs above JMM and Cotto.

My 5 best fighters of this generation....generation difficult to define but I'll go from the early 90s onwards

Pacquiao:
Best win was over MAB

Hopkins:
Best win was over Tito

Oscar:
Best win was over Whitaker

Holyfield:
Best win was over Tyson as an underdog

MAB:
Best win was over Morales

[HughJass]

I'm a huge Manny fan but his ko loss to Marquez has to be the greatest win,without a doubt!

[Nation's Fist]

Lol - I already said Pac and May are better than Cotto - they've already proven it. What are you talking about fam? Get off your alt account and debate with your real account.

This is my real account, go check with a mod if you want. I'm a relatively new poster just like you, but I'm a long time observer. So why don't you take your idiotic assumptions and go shove it?

Mayweather was a -700 favorite over Cotto, what the eff are you rambling about? Against Canelo - he was a -280. Again, you are playing Monday Morning QB and calling Canelo green - but prior to their fight, everyone thought he had a solid chance, which is part of the reason why he had such a huge box office success.

And what the fk does the opinions of oddsmakers and fans of a fight have to do with the quality of a win? Oddsmakers are often wrong and alot of fans don't know sh!et about boxing when they pick a fighter. You must be ******ed to confuse the odds of a fight with the true quality of an opponent.

If I'm playing Monday Morning QB calling Canelo green, then you are also playing Monday Morning QB calling Cotto "past-prime" when he lost to Mayweather. Cotto just had his (according to you) "best" win yet he was "past prime" 2 years ago? GTFO of here. Especially when Mayweather is several years older than Cotto.

Mayweather was older - fighting a young, strong and hungry young guy - something he's been accused of dodging for years and years. He not only fought him at JMW, but he thoroughly outclassed him. Alot of pundits and fans thought that Canelo was ready, after defeating a good boxer like Austin Trout and that Mayweather could be ripe for the taking.

Lol, you're such a liar. Mayweather didn't fight Canelo at 154, he fought Canelo at 152, when Canelo was in reality too big for 154. Canelo had one good win in his entire career while Mayweather had beaten over 20 world champions, boxing fans who think with their hearts thought Canelo had a chance, but those who think with their brains knew Mayweather was going to give the kid (who looked like a zombie that night) a boxing lesson. The catchweight diminished the only real advantage Canelo had, because it turns out that Canelo now can't even make 155.

Mayweather's Drainelo win was a cheap win, and isn't even close to the Cotto win.

Mayweather-Cotto was a supposed mismatch and the oddsmakers and forum dwellers said it so - because the fight was close for 8 rounds before Mayweather pulled away doesn't change the pre-fight talking points. Again, my list tried it's best to incorporate general consensus. I know you're having a hard time deciphering it, but I promise it's not a hard concept to follow. You seem to be the only one butt-hurt.

Once again, oddsmakers and fans and "forumdwellers" are wrong more often times than not. Their opinions don't determine the quality of a win, and if you weren't such a novice to boxing, you would understand that. Cotto was a seasoned veteran and had fought many world champions, he was far more experienced than the 22 year old Canelo at the championship level. The Cotto fight was also at 154, Cotto was never turned into a zombie like Canelo was.

You think the Mayweather Cotto fight was close? LOL you Cotto fantards really are something if you truly believe that Cotto won more than 3 rounds. Cotto landed a few jabs in a 12 round fight, and got a thorough schooling from Mayweather. The Cotto win was boxing at its very best, it was a much better more meaningful win for Floyd than toying with Drainelo.

And why would I be butthurt that Mayweather schooled Cotto? Lol.

If YOU consider Cotto win more impressive than Barrera or Morales or Chico or Canelo - well that's your opinion and I'm happy you have capacity to form such an opinion, I did say that this list is my own. Others on this thread believe that May's win over JMM and Hatton are more impressive and I respect that. I don't necessarily agree with that, since both were smaller men, especially JMM who moved up two divisions to collect that ass-whupping, but I could see why they believe those are better wins and respect that.

Me? Lol, I'm simply going by your logic. YOU had Cotto as one of the top 5 fighters of this GENERATION. So if we go by YOUR logic, how is Pac brutally stopping Cotto not better than beating Morales? If you go by YOUR logic, how is May schooling Cotto not better than schooling 22 year old Canelo who isn't even top 10 p4p?

You generally seem like you have a need to be patted on the back because, well I don't know - here's your cookie.

What does that even mean? Lol. You need to accept the fact that Cotto was obliterated by Pacquiao and schooled by Mayweather. Accept the fact that Cotto dragged a 40 year old handicap out of retirement to become the "lineal Middleweight champion of the world" at a catchweight of 159.

Oh and accept dem bottles of milk.

[JmH Reborn]

Bumping this year old thread - not much has changed. Perhaps Cotto can add a great name to his resume.

I was going to update this, but no real marquee wins by anybody lately, save for Mayweather. Tonight we either close the book on the last 10-15 years worth of fighters or we add another chapter. Might have to extend it to Wlad because I think he's getting his first big test in years next week

[RED REP]

Cotto TKO Martinez?!

Lmao. Only a Cotto fanboy would add that in there! Da fuq?

[onetwopunch]

Bhops win over Trinidad was huge. Trinidad was at the top of his game and Bhop was at his peak as well. Remmember back in the day Trinidad and RJJ, were the best P4P fighters at the moment. Trinidad was suppose to steam roll over Hopkins..Tito had just steam rolled over Joppy the other MW champ at the time. Everyone thought that Bhop was to old..lol..

[JmH Reborn]

Cotto TKO Martinez?!

Lmao. Only a Cotto fanboy would add that in there! Da fuq?

Its a year old thread, when perspective was part of the discussion, not year old revisionist history

Cotto fanboys did not make Martinez a 3-1 favorite. Cotto fanboys did not on NSB predicted by a huge margin that Martinez would KTFO Cotto. Pros and Joes said Martinez with or without knees would be too big, too strong and too fast for Cotto and that even with one knee he would kill Cotto.

So...in the context when this thread was made...which again, look at the date; its all relevant

[b00g13man]

Ktfo6.......

[New England]

Its a year old thread, when perspective was part of the discussion, not year old revisionist history

Cotto fanboys did not make Martinez a 3-1 favorite. Cotto fanboys did not on NSB predicted by a huge margin that Martinez would KTFO Cotto. Pros and Joes said Martinez with or without knees would be too big, too strong and too fast for Cotto and that even with one knee he would kill Cotto.

So...in the context when this thread was made...which again, look at the date; its all relevant

"we didn't know martinez was dead"

"actually, we did, it just took PR fanboys a year or so to figure out that they were the only people who credited cotto for beating martinez after it was clear that the guy could hardly train, spar, or even walk "