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    The 5 Best of this Gen: Who has the Best Win?

    This current generation has given us boxing fans some amazing fighters. As always - the cream has generally risen to the top. Of the five mentioned fighters below - each has captured some great wins. Lets go over what is their best win, in my humble opinion - and allow NSB to select the best one of the bunch. Keep in mind - this list of great wins is my own - feel free (in a non-troll way if possible by the casuals) to disagree and state your own case.

    Bernard Hopkins

    -TKO12 Felix Trinidad: In a fight that established the lineal MW crown that changed hands this weekend, this was the biggest fight of the year. Felix Trinidad, a WW beast who moved up and dominated JMW and moved up to MW to destroy Joppy was now in-line to retire the then washed up Hopkins. In what looked like a showcase fight - Hopkins thoroughly dominated Trinidad to establish himself as the MAN.

    -UD12 Kelly Pavlik: Fast forward nearly 6 years, and this was the fight that was billed as Hopkins retirement fight - with no hope of defeating the new MW king. Pavlik was supposed to add another notch on his belt at Hopkins expense, but Hopkins had other ideas. In one of the most dominating performances in recent years - Hopkins ended in one fell swoop what could have been a promising career, reestablishing himself a once in a lifetime talent.

    Floyd Mayweather
    -TKO10 Chico Corrales: In a dominating effort - PBF thoroughly outclassed the undefeated and seemingly impenetrable Corrales, forcing the corner men to throw in the towel. Floyd was an unheard of combination of power, speed, intelligence.

    -MW12 Canelo Alvarez: Floyd did something that he often gets accused of not doing - fight a young, prime, bigger and stronger fighter. He often gets criticized for the prime Cotto, Pac, Margarito and other countless misses - but on this night he went against popular opinion and fought Canelo at JMW. Despite the dubious scorecards - Floyd boxed masterfully and ended the hypetrain. He systematically broke Canelo down mentally and effortlessly outpointed him in his greatest performance post 30. At age 36, he looked better than he ever did.

    Manny Pacquiao
    -TKO11 Marco Antonio Barrera: Against one of the greatest Mexican fighters who ever lived - these two went to war! Pacquiao's speed and power were too much for the Mexican legend. In what amounted to the beginning of his ascension to greatness - Pacquiao produced one of his finest performances against a certified HoFer.

    -TKO10 Erik Morales: In a rematch of their first war, one in which saw Morales defeat Pacquiao - Pacquaio came out for vengeance against another Mexican great. In a trilogy that will never be forgotten, Pacquiao put forth another dazzling performance with a combo of speed and power to overwhelm the other member of this generation's Fab Four. It was a classic battle that continued to propel Pacquiao to new heights.

    Miguel Cotto
    UD12 Shane Mosley: Settling in at 147 - Cotto faced his stiffest test at 147, the great Shane Mosley. Cotto started off on point - out jabbing, overpowering and ultimately outboxing Mosley, before Mosley could mount a tremendous comeback. Cotto held on and outfought Mosley when it mattered to win a close, but clear UD.

    TKO10 Sergio Martinez: Moving up to 160, to engage in a historic fight - Cotto accomplished a feat that no PR fighter has ever done, and win a title only a select few ATG Welterweights have ever accomplished. Considered washed up and outside his element - Cotto gave his best performance has he systematically destroyed the MW King and forcing him to retire on his stool. He outboxed, overpowered and ultimately outclassed the considerate favorite to make a statement - that his time isn't quite done. Arguably the best win of any boxer since...

    Juan Manuel Marquez
    KO6 Manny Pacquiao IV: In what is arguably their defining fight of their 4 fight history; these two engaged in a war few will ever forget. After trading knockdowns and what looked like was turning into a massacre in favor of the Filipino icon, Marquez landed a counter right square on the chin of a closing in Pacquiao - putting his ATG nemesis to sleep. This win solidified JMM standing in the pantheon's of this generation's best fighters

    UD12 Marco Antonio Barrera: The Fab Four at it again - this time, these two proud Mexican warriors head to head. In a great back and forth battle - JMM put forth a gutsy and impeccable performance has he kept Barrera at bay to win a unanimous decision. This fight continued to raise the stock of JMM as a legitimate great of this generation, as he battled back from a setback in Indonesia and off the amazing performance he gave in the first Pacquiao fight. JMM made the statement on this night that he will be remembered as a Mexican icon.

    Feel free to disagree or agree - but lets debate it out!

    OP Note: Wlad Klitschko definitely should be considered in the same class as above mentioned fighters - I could not include him however in the poll because I had a real hard time trying to single out one or two career defining fights. Maybe its a result of his true greatness or lack of HW competition the past 10 years - either way, the HW King was not forgotten
    95
    Hopkins TKO12 Trinidad
    10.53%
    10
    Hopkins UD12 Pavlik
    0.00%
    0
    Mayweather TKO10 Chico
    2.11%
    2
    Mayweather UD12 Canelo
    2.11%
    2
    Pacquiao TKO11 Barrera
    34.74%
    33
    Pacquiao TKO10 Morales
    4.21%
    4
    Cotto UD12 Mosley
    0.00%
    0
    Cotto TKO10 Martinez
    6.32%
    6
    JMM KO6 Pacquiao
    40.00%
    38
    JMM UD12 Barrera
    0.00%
    0
    Last edited by JmH Reborn; 06-09-2014, 04:21 PM.

    #2
    Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
    This current generation has given us boxing fans some amazing fighters. As always - the cream has generally risen to the top. Of the five mentioned fighters below - each has captured some great wins. Lets go over what is their best win, in my humble opinion - and allow NSB to select the best one of the bunch. Keep in mind - this list of great wins is my own - feel free (in a non-troll way if possible by the casuals) to disagree and state your own case.

    Bernard Hopkins

    -TKO12 Felix Trinidad: In a fight that established the lineal MW crown that changed hands this weekend, this was the biggest fight of the year. Felix Trinidad, a WW beast who moved up and dominated JMW and moved up to MW to destroy Joppy was now in-line to retire the then washed up Hopkins. In what looked like a showcase fight - Hopkins thoroughly dominated Trinidad to establish himself as the MAN.

    -UD12 Kelly Pavlik: Fast forward nearly 6 years, and this was the fight that was billed as Hopkins retirement fight - with no hope of defeating the new MW king. Pavlik was supposed to add another notch on his belt at Hopkins expense, but Hopkins had other ideas. In one of the most dominating performances in recent years - Hopkins ended in one fell swoop what could have been a promising career, reestablishing himself a once in a lifetime talent.

    Floyd Mayweather
    -TKO10 Chico Corrales: In a dominating effort - PBF thoroughly outclassed the undefeated and seemingly impenetrable Corrales, forcing the corner men to throw in the towel. Floyd was an unheard of combination of power, speed, intelligence.

    -MW12 Canelo Alvarez: Floyd did something that he often gets accused of not doing - fight a young, prime, bigger and stronger fighter. He often gets criticized for the prime Cotto, Pac, Margarito and other countless misses - but on this night he went against popular opinion and fought Canelo at JMW. Despite the dubious scorecards - Floyd boxed masterfully and ended the hypetrain. He systematically broke Canelo down mentally and effortlessly outpointed him in his greatest performance post 30. At age 36, he looked better than he ever did.

    Manny Pacquiao
    -TKO11 Marco Antonio Barrera: Against one of the greatest Mexican fighters who ever lived - these two went to war! Pacquiao's speed and power were too much for the Mexican legend. In what amounted to the beginning of his ascension to greatness - Pacquiao produced one of his finest performances against a certified HoFer.

    -TKO10 Erik Morales: In a rematch of their first war, one in which saw Morales defeat Pacquiao - Pacquaio came out for vengeance against another Mexican great. In a trilogy that will never be forgotten, Pacquiao put forth another dazzling performance with a combo of speed and power to overwhelm the other member of this generation's Fab Four. It was a classic battle that continued to propel Pacquiao to new heights.

    Miguel Cotto
    UD12 Shane Mosley: Settling in at 147 - Cotto faced his stiffest test at 147, the great Shane Mosley. Cotto started off on point - out jabbing, overpowering and ultimately outboxing Mosley, before Mosley could mount a tremendous comeback. Cotto held on and outfought Mosley when it mattered to win a close, but clear UD.

    TKO10 Sergio Martinez: Moving up to 160, to engage in a historic fight - Cotto accomplished a feat that no PR fighter has ever done, and win a title only a select few ATG Welterweights have ever accomplished. Considered washed up and outside his element - Cotto gave his best performance has he systematically destroyed the MW King and forcing him to retire on his stool. He outboxed, overpowered and ultimately outclassed the considerate favorite to make a statement - that his time isn't quite done. Arguably the best win of any boxer since...

    Juan Manuel Marquez
    KO6 Manny Pacquiao IV: In what is arguably their defining fight of their 4 fight history; these two engaged in a war few will ever forget. After trading knockdowns and what looked like was turning into a massacre in favor of the Filipino icon, Marquez landed a counter right square on the chin of a closing in Pacquiao - putting his ATG nemesis to sleep. This win solidified JMM standing in the pantheon's of this generation's best fighters

    UD12 Marco Antonio Barrera: The Fab Four at it again - this time, these two proud Mexican warriors head to head. In a great back and forth battle - JMM put forth a gutsy and impeccable performance has he kept Barrera at bay to win a unanimous decision. This fight continued to raise the stock of JMM as a legitimate great of this generation, as he battled back from a setback in Indonesia and off the amazing performance he gave in the first Pacquiao fight. JMM made the statement on this night that he will be remembered as a Mexican icon.

    Feel free to disagree or agree - but lets debate it out!

    OP Note: Wlad Klitschko definitely should be considered in the same class as above mentioned fighters - I could not include him however in the poll because I had a real hard time trying to single out one or two career defining fights. Maybe its a result of his true greatness or lack of HW competition the past 10 years - either way, the HW King was not forgotten
    no he shouldn't and you said it yourself. he has no defining wins aka he didn't beat anyone good therefore he doesn't belong in the same class. hug-beating a lot of bums while dual-reigning with your brother=garbage

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      #3
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      no he shouldn't and you said it yourself. he has no defining wins aka he didn't beat anyone good therefore he doesn't belong in the same class. hug-beating a lot of bums while dual-reigning with your brother=garbage
      Longevity should be considered - that's why. Plus he has a suspect chin. The Haye fight could have been a defining fight - but he hugged his way to victory. So on one hand I agree with you, and the other, I slightly disagree

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        #4
        I voted Pacquiao/Morales before noticing Marquez/Pacquiao 4.

        Can't go wrong with either one.

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          #5
          Wlad Klitschko is NOT in the same class as those fighters. At all.

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            #6
            It's different when a fighter who's on a streak gets dominated in a fight he's expected to win. The majority of us had Marquez beating Pacquiao in that 3rd fight, so I'm definitely going with Pacquiao's win over MAB.

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              #7
              I still can't believe how good Cotto looked against Sergio

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                #8
                Really difficult to break it down and rank these wins but i'll try my best.

                The Marquez ko of Pacquiao has to be the best win IMO.Yes I might be a little biased, but it goes down as one of the biggest and most memorable ko in the history of the sport. Not to mention he was fighting in a weight class he had never won a fight in (0-2) and did it against a guy top 3 p4p at the time.

                Secondly I would have to say this past weekends fight where Cotto was able to completely dominate and stop the former Middleweight King Sergio Martinez. Much like Marquez, Cotto was moving up in weight and accomplished something no one really envisioned he could do. No one in this forum, including myself, really gave him a chance and he looked fantastic with his speed, power, reflexes, and ring generalship all in a weight classed he doesn't even belong in. Obviously the issue of Martinez' health will come up, but regardless we all knew this beforehand yet still no one envisioned he could beat Martinez.

                Third on the list would have to be Pacquiao completely dominating and beating down Barrera who was top 3 p4p at the time. In possibly the most impressive performance of his career Pacquiao steamrolled past one of the ATG's and cemented his place as an elite fighter.

                It's a toss-up between Floyd/Corrales and B-hop/Trinidad but I would place Bernard ahead of the Corrales win simply because Trinidad was a much better fighter. Both were dominant in their respective fights and completely outclassed their opponents.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View Post
                  Really difficult to break it down and rank these wins but i'll try my best.

                  The Marquez ko of Pacquiao has to be the best win IMO.Yes I might be a little biased, but it goes down as one of the biggest and most memorable ko in the history of the sport. Not to mention he was fighting in a weight class he had never won a fight in (0-2) and did it against a guy top 3 p4p at the time.

                  Secondly I would have to say this past weekends fight where Cotto was able to completely dominate and stop the former Middleweight King Sergio Martinez. Much like Marquez, Cotto was moving up in weight and accomplished something no one really envisioned he could do. No one in this forum, including myself, really gave him a chance and he looked fantastic with his speed, power, reflexes, and ring generalship all in a weight classed he doesn't even belong in. Obviously the issue of Martinez' health will come up, but regardless we all knew this beforehand yet still no one envisioned he could beat Martinez.

                  Third on the list would have to be Pacquiao completely dominating and beating down Barrera who was top 3 p4p at the time. In possibly the most impressive performance of his career Pacquiao steamrolled past one of the ATG's and cemented his place as an elite fighter.

                  It's a toss-up between Floyd/Corrales and B-hop/Trinidad but I would place Bernard ahead of the Corrales win simply because Trinidad was a much better fighter. Both were dominant in their respective fights and completely outclassed their opponents.
                  Man, good ish - I agree with you. I haven't voted yet. For me it's a toss up with JMMKO6, Cotto TKO10 and Pac over MAB. Also as a fan of Hopkins - there was something special with what he did to Trinidad

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                    #10
                    JMM did NOT beat Barrera. I actually had Barrera winning that fight.

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