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    Originally posted by MoneyBoyTBE View Post
    exactly what i mean...if stiverne was bothered by arreolas shots....wtf you think is gonna happen when someone twice as young, twice the size,power,and speed is gonna hit him....lol stiverne getting knocked out.

    WHO WANTS TO BET?
    Wilder is slightly younger, lighter, and not really that fast because he telegraphs punches like he is on a movie set but he has power which is about all.

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      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
      Arreola even if he is a fat beer guzzling butterball, has far more skill than Wilder, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion about Wilder.
      thats not the point...arreolla is old and washed up...is smaller, and less powerful than wilder with less speed

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        Originally posted by MoneyBoyTBE View Post
        thats not the point...arreolla is old and washed up...is smaller, and less powerful than wilder with less speed
        None of these claims are verifiable or even true, Arreola isn't really old, has probably not weighed 220 in a long time, there is no evidence to suggest Wilder hits that much harder or at all he fights terrible opposition, and I am not seeing this blazing speed you are talking about in Wilder.

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          Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
          None of these claims are verifiable or even true, Arreola isn't really old, has probably not weighed 220 in a long time, there is no evidence to suggest Wilder hits that much harder or at all he fights terrible opposition, and I am not seeing this blazing speed you are talking about in Wilder.
          the speed so fast you cant even see it

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          • Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
            Arreola even if he is a fat beer guzzling butterball, has far more skill than Wilder, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion about Wilder.
            Arreola simply walked Stiverne into theropes and let shots go while Stiverne stood there with his guard up. That takes no great deal of talent but speaks more to how Stiverne's style of boxing plays into the hands of a power puncher.

            Sure, he might block a few but he won't block them all and how is he planning on countering back when his arm reach is 3 inches shorter than his opponent and he is 4.5 inches shorter than his opponent is? Wilder will be able to get full extension on his punches as well because he will be fighting a stationary target.

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              Originally posted by mathed View Post
              Arreola simply walked Stiverne into theropes and let shots go while Stiverne stood there with his guard up. That takes no great deal of talent but speaks more to how Stiverne's style of boxing plays into the hands of a power puncher.

              Sure, he might block a few but he won't block them all and how is he planning on countering back when his arm reach is 3 inches shorter than his opponent and he is 4.5 inches shorter than his opponent is? Wilder will be able to get full extension on his punches as well because he will be fighting a stationary target.
              Wilder has not shown any inside game to speak of getting close and pressuring like Arreola, Wilder's best chance is early with a long range right hand since he has never been in deep waters or tested really at all.

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                It is nonsense with this Arreola/Wilder comparison, because there isn't much to compare. Arreola fought legit comp during his career, Wilder knocked out cans but is apparently chinny himself. Plus they are different fighters, in every way.

                Arreola has a good chin, and Stiverne gave him spaghetti legs. People are hyping Wilder way too much, considering he has proven very little and has never gone past 4 rounds. As I said in a previous post, Stiverne is a smart fighter, he will not just walk into some bombs early on.

                I think Stiverne takes out Wilder during the middle rounds after riding off some early storms.

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                  Many people say Wilder has only fought bums but Stiverne was knocked out by a journeyman and his best win is recycled contender Arreola. Honestly, their resume's have very little seperation.

                  The problem is something that Wilder brought up, his record is 'too' perfect all KO's all wins and i guess many people can't fathom the idea he could be the real deal at this stage which is fair enough but after this fight if he wins he deserves credit for sure.

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                    I think this fight could go down in several different ways...

                    The first: I think Wilder might be a little tentative, maybe too tentative and gets caught with a nice counter from Stiverne. Wilder cannot give Bermane too much respect. He's gotta open up and not be afraid to air out his offense.

                    The second: Wilder shows Stiverne no respect and bombs him out within 1-2 rounds. Wilder can't be reckless but he has to be aggressive and show his killer instinct. His killer instinct and massive punching power has got him pretty far (32 wins, 32 Kayos) and he can't abandon that.

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                      Wilder been TKO'd in the amateurs and nearly Ko'd in the pros against Bums and tomato cans. He will be stopped, he has gained zero experience from his 30 pro fights and it will show.

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