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Originally posted by New England View Postit's rarely, if ever done. fighter's go up in weight, not down. the only incentive would be a ton of money, and HBO just can't pay hiim much more for those fights than they can for edwin rodriguez. which would you do, and don't give me that "legacy" garbage that no fighter puts before making money.
the down time between fights, and then only bringing yourself to 175, could end forever the possibility of him making 168 again.
he'd be best served to fight 175 lbers while not letting himself weight in at too much more than 168. then, maybe, it would be possible.
whyt would he do it, though? legacy?
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Andre should know where he stands and that's in a nowhere land.
GGG was asking for a 50/50 purse split to fight him @ 168 but he thinks he's a bigger draw which he ain't.
ChavezJr. would be a good money fight for him @ 168 if he'll accept a lower pay.
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Originally posted by New England View Postit's rarely, if ever done. fighter's go up in weight, not down. the only incentive would be a ton of money, and HBO just can't pay hiim much more for those fights than they can for edwin rodriguez. which would you do, and don't give me that "legacy" garbage that no fighter puts before making money.
the down time between fights, and then only bringing yourself to 175, could end forever the possibility of him making 168 again.
he'd be best served to fight 175 lbers while not letting himself weight in at too much more than 168. then, maybe, it would be possible.
whyt would he do it, though? legacy?
and you all know that the same king ward haters are going to discredit a win over anybody from kovalev to klitschko. when you're young, black, and good, there's envy.
Ward weighs atleast 175 on fight night, so all he would have to do is not drain. But I'm not going to criticize anyone who doesn't want to move up a division to face Kovalev, just don't be like others saying GGG should do the same for Ward and it's cool.
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I'm glad he's going through the **** he's going through. my man thinks the world is supposed to move for him. fights strickly in his hometown, cleaned out 168, has no interest in proving himself up in another weight, expects lh's and middleweights to fight him where he's most comfortable at; and chavez fought martinez. how the **** is that circumventing fighting the best guy?
i appreciate his talent but if he doesn't seem like the kinda guy who should get ktfo, i don't know who would be.
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Originally posted by Foreign Soil View PostWhat is with this at the bottom? Is that junk really necessary?
Ward weighs atleast 175 on fight night, so all he would have to do is not drain. But I'm not going to criticize anyone who doesn't want to move up a division to face Kovalev, just don't be like others saying GGG should do the same for Ward and it's cool.
that's truth-based humor, designed to rile up the brits.
to deny that there's a resistance, mired in race, to a young, black, american fighter being on top is wrong.
if jumping up and down in weight is so easy, why doesn't everybody do it? is it possible that there's something to the idea that moving back down in weight isn't good for your body, and shortens your career?
i don't have any doubt that ward would jump up to 175 for ppv money. you guys want him to do it for HBO money. if you're getting HBO money at 168, or at 175, what are you going to do?
and don't give me that legacy crap, unless you don't pay your own bills. do you have any idea how expensive it is to live in the bay area?
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i never really thought of it in these terms, but mayweather looked so bad on saturday that you'd have to be a real idiot not to bump king andre up to the top p4p spot.
the king has finally arrived on his throne.
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Originally posted by New England View Postit's rarely, if ever done. fighter's go up in weight, not down. the only incentive would be a ton of money, and HBO just can't pay hiim much more for those fights than they can for edwin rodriguez. which would you do, and don't give me that "legacy" garbage that no fighter puts before making money.
the down time between fights, and then only bringing yourself to 175, could end forever the possibility of him making 168 again.
he'd be best served to fight 175 lbers while not letting himself weight in at too much more than 168. then, maybe, it would be possible.
whyt would he do it, though? legacy?
and you all know that the same king ward haters are going to discredit a win over anybody from kovalev to klitschko. when you're young, black, and good, there's envy.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostFighters move up for one fight and move back down all the time. Ward could move up for Kovalev and immediately move back down. It shouldn't be that big a deal.
all the time? how much boxing do you really watch?
so a championship level fighter does this regularly? complete BS. fighters almost always move up. fighters moving back down in weight is extremely rare, and there's a reason for it.
get the kind some ppv money, and we can talk. you think andre ward is scared of krusher kovalev, is that it? money, joe goosen, has nothing to do with it, he's just scared?
get the king some more HBO slave wages, and we're staying at 168, and staying steady making demands.
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