Comments Thread For: Chavez: I'll Only Fight Golovkin Without an Extension

[Joey_Torreo]

This here.

If Jr defects - which now looks likely - and with Pacquiao's impeding retirement, GBP may end up holding all the marbles. I smell an end to the Cold War coming soon..

That Cold War might be coming to an end but the al Haymon cloud still looms over boxing and no one is really sure as to what is going to happen

[ADP02]

Floyd also has a promo company. But arum does it to mannys opponents and it's ok right. But no need to make this a Floyd thread

Thanks for NOT answering my questions. Is Floyd scum like Arum? Do you hate Floyd? That was my point since all I keep reading is that Arum is scum because he is handcuffing fighters into doing something they may not want to do. Floyd is doing the same. So still waiting for your answer.

I told you that I don't like the situation. Meaning, I don't like what Arum is doing, what Floyd is doing and what GB is doing. They are all 3 taking boxing fans for a ride in this. While I don't like it, I partially understand why they (GB and TR) do what they do with the exception of Floyd.

Why the exception? We have been at this for 5+ years now and only now did Floyd bring up this roadblock. If you were objective about it, it kind of makes you wonder why, no? From my point of view, it is just another roadblock. Floyd will stall until he feels that he can make big money and Manny appears to be relatively less risky due to the wars, age and deterioration.


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[-Kev-]

Some one clearly gave Chavez Jr some good advice about Arum and contracts. I am wondering if it was Floyd when they hung out at that Lakers game(sorry if I got the wrong team).

[ADP02]

He want Manny to become a free agent like Cotto did. Manny doesn't have to necessarily have to sign with GBP or TMT[Yeah, I can't believe some fans on here thought it was a serious request]. Manny can do what Cotto did, and let GBP co-promote the fight. Cotto didn't signed with GBP when Mayweather-Cotto got made, and after he fought Trout, he went right back to co-promote his fights with Top Rank afterwards. Put aside the Floyd fight for a minute, and think about all of those new opponents that Manny can fight.

Why does Manny need to always comply with these roadblocks of Floyd? Why does he state this after 5 years?

- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, you are a cheater and must take a PEDs test?
- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, you just came back from retirement and did less with Marquez compared to me with Cotto. I WANT ALL PPV MONEY
- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, GB and you accused me of taking PEDs with no proof. I got insulted. I want you to apoligize and leave GB and Al Haymon and Ellerbe and you can't get Floyd Sr to train you because he started all this or no fight.

Finally, Manny complied with previous roadblocks and it got him no closer to a fight with Floyd ..... just spanking new roadblocks.


Cotto got made because it was 5 years too late, Cotto was in too many wars and was relatively not a threat anymore. That is why the fight happened. In 2007/2008, Floyd didn't want it and that is when it counted.

[ADP02]

Floyd hasn't said "leave Arum." Floyd just isn't working with Arum. Arum could easily take a step aside fee and the fight would proceed. But he won't do that because they don't want the fight. They would rather play games in the media, convince dip****s like you that they want the fight more than anything, and Floyd is the one holding things up. And it's worked for a long time. But from the looks of Pac's recent PPV numbers, dumbasses like you appear to bewwising up to Arum and Pac's bull****.

Just read what you said and ask yourself, "Who is it that is coming up with these roadblocks, Arum or Floyd?"
Once you answer that question correctly, you will realize who is preventing this from happening. Here is a tip. I don't hear Arum saying that he doesn't want to partake in a fight with Floyd.

Was it Arum that brought up these roadblocks/issues?:
- PEDs testing,
- PEDs accusations,
- not interested in fighting Manny (2010),
- vacations,
- non-negotations,
- NO PPV MONEY ==> becomes an issue once Manny accepts previous roadblocks,
- must avenge his losses first,
- not interested in fighting Manny (2013/2014),
- after 5 years "I don't want to do business with Arum"

..... none of that had to do with Arum but keep pretending that it does, if it makes you feel better.

[Snake4380]

only a ****** man makes 25m plus since 2009 lol per fight, even against rios, pac had his guarantee despite the low ppv numbers

once again, if pac moves to golden boy, who the fk do they have? nobody bar canelo, the rest of the guys will not break 500k ppv buys, broner? khan? there are two big names thats it

floyd will not ever fight pac and he belongs to himself which he says loudly

I still don't get your point. Pacquiao doesn't need to commit to any promotional company. If he were smart, Pac would go the Floyd Mayweather route and go fight-by-fight. I don't see any benefit to Pacquiao in re-signing with Top Rank. Only fighters who need to become established have a reason to sign with a promotional company. After they've become established, they should be focused on the day the contract ends. Any established fighter who still relies on his promotional company long-term is an idiot period.

[hitking]

Thanks for NOT answering my questions. Is Floyd scum like Arum? Do you hate Floyd? That was my point since all I keep reading is that Arum is scum because he is handcuffing fighters into doing something they may not want to do. Floyd is doing the same. So still waiting for your answer.

I told you that I don't like the situation. Meaning, I don't like what Arum is doing, what Floyd is doing and what GB is doing. They are all 3 taking their fans for a ride in this. While I don't like it, I partially understand why they (GB and TR) do what they do with the exception of Floyd.

Why the exception? We have been at this for 5+ years now and only now did Floyd bring up this roadblock. If you were objective about it, it kind of makes you wonder why, no? From my point of view, it is just another roadblock. Floyd will stall until he feels that he can make big money and Manny appears to be relatively less risky due to the wars, age and deterioration.

Again, you're wrong. Floyd said in the Brian Kenny interview before the JMM fight that he didn't wanna work with Arum. It's just ****** f.ucks like you that are acting like Floyd is just now saying this to continue your ****** duck bull****.

[Snake4380]

Again, you're wrong. Floyd said in the Brian Kenny interview before the JMM fight that he didn't wanna work with Arum. It's just ****** f.ucks like you that are acting like Floyd is just now saying this to continue your ****** duck bull****.

If Floyd didn't want to work with Arum before the Marquez fight, why did Floyd negotiate with Arum after the Marquez fight for the Pacquiao fight? What changed from that day? I thought it was the blood-testing not Arum?

[hitking]

Why does Manny need to always comply with these roadblocks of Floyd? Why does he state this after 5 years?

- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, you are a cheater and must take a PEDs test?
- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, you just came back from retirement and did less with Marquez compared to me with Cotto. I WANT ALL PPV MONEY
- Can you imagine if Manny would have told Floyd, GB and you accused me of taking PEDs with no proof. I got insulted. I want you to apoligize and leave GB and Al Haymon and Ellerbe and you can't get Floyd Sr to train you because he started all this or no fight.

Finally, Manny complied with previous roadblocks and it got him no closer to a fight with Floyd ..... just spanking new roadblocks.


Cotto got made because it was 5 years too late, Cotto was in too many wars and was relatively not a threat anymore. That is why the fight happened. In 2007/2008, Floyd didn't want it and that is when it counted.

In a lil over a month, Cotto will be fighting the middleweight champion, in his first fight in the division, and is seen as a viable opponent. But two years ago was too late to be a viable opponent for the welterweight champion moving up to fight him. How f.uckin' ****** is that?

[hitking]

If Floyd didn't want to work with Arum before the Marquez fight, why did Floyd negotiate with Arum after the Marquez fight for the Pacquiao fight? What changed from that day? I thought it was the blood-testing not Arum?

I'd say not being broke and Pac no longer being an equal, or close second in terms of status in the sport and drawing power has changed ****.