Comments Thread For: Arum Says Pacquiao Contract Extension is Close

[Bronx2245]

Here's what happens to dummies:

"Sugar" Shane Mosley is now officially a promotional free agent after Top Rank declined to pick up the option on his next fight, according to Dan Rafael. Here's what Bob Arum had to say:


"We like Shane, but we told him the reason was that we didn't want to leave him hanging around waiting, because right now we have nothing for him, so it would be wrong to keep the option and then just do nothing with him. We said if something comes up and he was still available, then I would hope we would be able to make a deal, but right now I don't see anything on the horizon."

Mosley (46-7-1, 39 KO) put in a hugely criticized performance -- or non-performance -- on May 7 against Manny Pacquiao, a major event fight that Top Rank went out of their way to make, and that Shane Mosley went out of his way to grab. Prior to that fight, Mosley was not only a fighter at Golden Boy Promotions, but a shareholder and part of the core of the company in some ways. He parted ways with longtime business partner Oscar de la Hoya in order to make the fight with Pacquiao, and now at 39 years old, is at a career low with, perhaps, very few options open for him. He's winless in his last three and all of the fights drew criticism for his inability to either compete or provide compelling action.

[bimhead]

People talk about the outstanding Pacquiao taxes, but those will very likely be settled for less than the maximum $60 million owed. The most disturbing figure is when they froze all of his bank accounts there was apparently only like $40,000 across 26 or however many accounts. I mean wtf, that is less than a weeks wages for a mediocre soccer player. Where the hell is the money going?

who cares!..i'm only concerned with my money and my life,why do people care about another mans personal life and finances...not content with your own?

[p4p-champ]

If only we knew what Arum and Koncz knows. I mean, here we have a very popular boxer needing no promoting and a long time personal laywer (Gacal) who has advised him to leave TopRank after blaming tax issues, missing funds, and hidden contracts on Arum and company.

In what world does anyone with half a brain re-sign with the man apparently behind all his financial issues. I just don't see anyone with half-brain doing such a thing.

Does Manny not trust his long time Filipino laywer?

Nobody is interested in watching reruns of Marquez and Bradley, the man should just retire if he isn't going to face Golden Boy fighters.

[bimhead]

Has it occurred to you that he might just be content with his 20+ million plus ppv plus whatever raise came with it which by all account is a lot MORE that anyone on this forum will ever see in their lifetime? By the way, he lives in the Philippines so that kind of money is a hell of a lot more. Just can't understand why people are so concerned about another man's money. SMFH. Problems or not, I don't think anyone on here has ever bailed Manny out. By the way, if you think this hinders a Floyd, you must be flat out ******ed. The fight was never going to happen and if it is to happen, this is no hurdle by any means.

you....my friend have hit the nail on the head...why is everyone so concerned with his finances?..they have no life.

[Bronx2245]

“Pacquiao’s gate for Bradley 2 was his worst in his 8 Vegas fights since becoming huge star vs Oscar. $1.1 million less than previous lowest,” Rafael said. “HBO tells me no PPV figures on #PacBradley this week because Arum out of country on family trip & they haven’t talked about the numbers yet.”

The gate for Pacquiao vs. Bradley 2 fight was $7,865,100 with 14,099 sold tickets, according to Dan Rafael.


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DON'T DO IT MANNY!!!

[bimhead]

Dude is popular enough to be independent and fight on a per fight bases, and this dude gone and sign 5 fights contract? This was an opportunity to dictate his finances and make lucrative bouts...c'mon, this can't be serious, dude....this dude...smdh.

well,i'm no buisiness man...i think its a lot more risky and complicated than we all think..and i think we,as fans,are just frustrated with buisiness and promoters,and big money ruining our beloved sport.

[JDD1]

MP and gbp have a good relationship?? LOL!!! even if gbp and tmt have a good relationship, they're still 2 seperate promotional company, agree or not? so floyd fighting gbp fighters, that means gbp and gbp fighter will get their cut of the share. so floyd wouldnt be able to keep all the profit right? so again why is it ok for gbp fighters but not with manny? LOL!!

yes they do have a good working relationship.

I never said all of the profit, I said maximize profits. there you go again replacing what I said with what you want as a way to try and create a valid arguement where none exists. please stop that.

for the same reasons its ok that artie puello's fighters don't have to leave to get a fight against a TR fighter but GBP guys do.

Anyway you cut it,its ok for floyd to make the same request of his opponents as manny's promoter has asked for his.

[bimhead]

A multi billion dollar enterprise isn't worth taking all their talent away from? Are you serious?

Now you're just being dense for the hell of it.

and there are laws against monopolies.

[JDD1]

A big LOL at everyone saying Pac-Floyd is over coz Pac's remaining with TR.

As if you dense cats are so sure the fight will materialize when Pac doesn't renew with TR.

I think its fair to look at what happened with Cotto when he left. I agree there is no guarantee until its on paper and signed, but to say the likelihood is low is unfair.

[mourinho1]

And you think Manny, Arum or even Floyd for that matter gives a damn about your beliefs or your opinion. For one your logic is full of holes but I really don't have the time to plug 'em all but I will state the obvious. First you went all in on Manny but conveniently left out what Floyd did or could have done and blindly you deduced that Manny is lesser than Floyd. Then you said if Manny is up for challenges, he should go to the other side, don't you think the same can be said about Floyd as well. Just like Floyd, Manny has earned the right to plan his exit strategy out of the sport and if he feels like signing with TR for guaranteed money for his next fights is the right move, then that is what it is. Why do you seem to have a problem with that? Funny the same Thurman, Porter or Garcia haven't fought either, have they? Then you question Manny being a BS fighter and not being in boxing for the glory of the sport, are you fckng kidding me? That right there tells me you are clearly ignorant of the history of boxing. If Manny doesn't fight any one more credible fight, he would have made more of an impact from fighting perspective (not revenue) than Floyd would have made in an entire career. Go to boxing rec and educate yourself on Manny's career.

It's a forum right? I am starting to believe Manny fools the public on purpose with his statements, which i think isnt cool.

about the 50/50 testing pacman refused even roach admitted that was pac's fault and with saying that roach also admits FMJ had true intentions back then to make the fight.=> 1-0 FMJ

The 40M (minimum)offer was also legit some believe and some believe he should fight for less under uncle BOB. =>2-0 FMJ

The time has come for Pacman to show he wants the fight if he wants it IMO. So far he is a good salesman and an entertaining fighter.

about him trying to make as much as he can i respect that, but i think your logic is flawed if you believe only negotiating through Konz with Arum is the way to do that. Why don't you explain what your problem is with what im saying that he needs to look at all the options available before signing? Thats the only thing i'm saying if TR in the end has the best offer i think everyone respects that from a business point of view...

From a sports point of view one should have the ambition to fight the best most challenging fighters out there. The majority in here thinks, that opposition is at showtime. Bradley extended with TR, but he was never a salesman fronting to want to challenge the best. He stayed relatively quiet. Where do you think from a sport perspective he gets the best most challenging fights HBO or Showtime?

About FMJ not having fought the Thurmans and Porters yet, that is only logical at the time. The guys you've mentioned had to make a name for themselves before making business sense. in 2015 i think they are worthy for FMJ. If the public screams for one of these two and it makes business sense i dont see FMJ avoiding these matches.

Hey i geuss you know better, who has the better resume im not gonna argue with you. But in the here and know, i do think that the tougher fights are at showtime, no matter if bradley is at HBO. Recycling opponents has more to do with money than with sports in my book, i still stand for that. To be more clear, i respect mayweather more for the opponents he recently fights most of them are champs and such...