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    Ok let's forget Mayweather vs Pacquiao for a while. If Mayweather is scared to face Manny, Floyd have 3 options, 3 Super fights, the last 3 fights, 2 Fighters Ranked in the P4P Top 10 list to close the chapter and the opponents are Bernard Hopkins, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez. He can fight Catchweight against those but NO!! he already ducked Hopkins, Martinez and Ward specially Ward could beat Floyd so why to take the risk. Floyd Only fights unranked fighters (Ortiz, Guerrero,Maidana) Canelo is ranked in the top 10 P4P and that fight took place because SHOWTIME Force Mayweather to take the fight.

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      Pac is running scared and I don't blame him.

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        Originally posted by [T][B][E] View Post
        so how much did he make for the bradley fight?
        Does he owe you some money? Is that why you are concerned about how much he made for the fight? He has a guarantee in his contract and he makes that plus the upside of PPV. Since we don't have all that info out yet, how I am suppose to be able to tell you how much he made. Did I say I was Manny's manager or accountant?

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          Originally posted by mourinho1 View Post
          I dont completely agree, atleast Stevenson is going to the other side to potentially earn more money.
          HBO was throwing Stevenson a fat 3 fight deal that included the Kovalev showdown they had been building towards. He left that on the table for Hopkins??? Stevenson definitely ducked. Now if Manny signs that extension, he'll be losing out on the biggest payday of his career. Arum has no fights that will generate a fraction of what a potential Mayweather fight would. Not to mention the huge piece of the pie Arum takes out of all of Manny's earnings.

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            This is Arum talking to Koncz so hopefully someone in Pac camps is not as dumb as rocks like Pac and advises him not to take it.

            Or maybe this tax issue is deeper than it seems and Pac needs the help but with the recent Garcia claims Pac should really get some advise for this.

            Fighters arent trying to jump off the TR ship for nothing

            Shame if he re-signs.

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              Originally posted by SugaROIDS View Post
              Ok let's forget Mayweather vs Pacquiao for a while. If Mayweather is scared to face Manny, Floyd have 3 options, 3 Super fights, the last 3 fights, 2 Fighters Ranked in the P4P Top 10 list to close the chapter and the opponents are Bernard Hopkins, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez. He can fight Catchweight against those but NO!! he already ducked Hopkins, Martinez and Ward specially Ward could beat Floyd so why to take the risk. Floyd Only fights unranked fighters (Ortiz, Guerrero,Maidana) Canelo is ranked in the top 10 P4P and that fight took place because SHOWTIME Force Mayweather to take the fight.
              These fighters suck when Floyd fights them, but what about Manny? Does he want to fight these people? Well here's what Freddie Roach had to say:

              "It is widely accepted that Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent will either be WBO welterweight champion Timothy Bradley or WBO light welterweight champion Ruslan Provodnikov. However, Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach floated another name as possible opponent for the eight-division champion - Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero."

              "Guerrero has sparred with Manny many times and he thinks he gets the best of Manny. He's made that public before that he used to beat Manny up in sparring. I see it a different way, but I would love that fight and I think it's a great fight,” Roach said in an interview with SecondsOut.com.

              “There's a couple of other guys out there right now that I'm thinking about that are free agents. You look at Mayweather's last like four fights and so forth, if we can fight one of those guys that he went the distance with and knock that person out and be impressive, it puts us even closer to Mayweather because that's the fight we really want eventually," Roach said.

              “He [Guerrero] went the distance with Mayweather and I think if Manny knocks him out, it puts us even closer to the Mayweather fight."

              GMA News, January 10, 2014. "Freddie Roach wants Pacquiao to fight Guerrero before Mayweather"

              So Mayweather is a cherry-picker, but Freddie was trying to eat some of those same cherries, like ODLH, Hatton, Mosely, and Guerrero.

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                People forget these extension come with a lump sum of cash...that's a number we only find out if the fighter divulges it. If ain't nobody offering him what bob is offering him where should he sign? I wish he wouldn't sign up again and just wait it out but who here really trusts bob having a fighter on contract fighting one about to end his..I don't.

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                  Originally posted by mourinho1 View Post
                  I dont agree, i believe if he would have accepted 40M the fight would have been made.

                  I believe if he negotiated with the other side the fight could have been made.

                  I don't know where you get your wisdom, if he resigns that means one fighter never wanted it. I also think as a sportsman he is less than FMJ. FMJ doesnt recycle his opponents like this he is open for new challengers and champions. This recycle **** has nothing to do with sport, TR/Arum are more about business than GBP. Why didnt garcia vs gamboa happen. TR is all politics. If Pac is up for some challenges he should go to the other side and fight some new blood.
                  Thurman, Porter, FMJ, D.Garcia those are fights a real sportsman goes for. If this is true Manny is a BS fighter who isnt in it for the glory or the sport. I mean in what world dont you listen to all parties what they have to offer??? How can you manager serve two interests manny and Arum???
                  It doesnt make sense and it cant be explained if in the end, it is that he didnt sat down with the other side and just resigned.
                  And you think Manny, Arum or even Floyd for that matter gives a damn about your beliefs or your opinion. For one your logic is full of holes but I really don't have the time to plug 'em all but I will state the obvious. First you went all in on Manny but conveniently left out what Floyd did or could have done and blindly you deduced that Manny is lesser than Floyd. Then you said if Manny is up for challenges, he should go to the other side, don't you think the same can be said about Floyd as well. Just like Floyd, Manny has earned the right to plan his exit strategy out of the sport and if he feels like signing with TR for guaranteed money for his next fights is the right move, then that is what it is. Why do you seem to have a problem with that? Funny the same Thurman, Porter or Garcia haven't fought either, have they? Then you question Manny being a BS fighter and not being in boxing for the glory of the sport, are you fckng kidding me? That right there tells me you are clearly ignorant of the history of boxing. If Manny doesn't fight any one more credible fight, he would have made more of an impact from fighting perspective (not revenue) than Floyd would have made in an entire career. Go to boxing rec and educate yourself on Manny's career.

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                    Another article from the Arum files:

                    Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

                    Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

                    Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

                    "The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight." Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

                    "Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

                    "Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."



                    Bob arum kills fights! He's gotta go!

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                      Well so much for the Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight. Both of them are scared of each other enough said

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