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    #81
    Have to agree with Arum here.

    This is what Espinoza said to Dan Rafael in an article last month. Confirming there is no need for them to work with another promotional outfit outside of GBP.

    I don't see any virtue of going with a variety of promoters just for variety's sake
    Full article (under Only Golden Boy fights): .go.com/boxing/story/_/id/10273297/show-bet-boxing-pays-2013

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      #82
      Once again Bob is trying to feed some bull **** to the mindless public. Shotime has already had a shobox card promoted by DeBella (sp) and are about to have one this month promoted by Don "Only in America" King. It's not that Shotime only works with GBP exclusively, as he is trying to tell the public. They just won't work with his slimy a**.

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        #83
        typical scumbag bob. it's everybody else's fault that he's a sociopath.

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          #84
          Textbook example of how thoroughly dishonest Arum is as a human being.

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            #85
            This is the same guy who has gone on record to say he won't work with any orther promoter AND the only way fighters can work with him is if they leave their promoters. This is B.S. out of Bob Arum's mouth.

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              #86
              Love how everybody paints Arum/Top Rank as the bad guys. Golden Boy was already giving all their fights to Showtime even before HBO kicked them out. HBO help make GBP to what they are today. They help developed and promote fighters, only to have GBP take them all to Showtime.

              Which is a dumb move by GBP. I get that a former Golden Boy guy is the head over there, but still. They could have had dates on Showtime and HBO, while top rank has only HBO.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Victorious713 View Post
                Love how everybody paints Arum/Top Rank as the bad guys. Golden Boy was already giving all their fights to Showtime even before HBO kicked them out. HBO help make GBP to what they are today. They help developed and promote fighters, only to have GBP take them all to Showtime.

                Which is a dumb move by GBP. I get that a former Golden Boy guy is the head over there, but still. They could have had dates on Showtime and HBO, while top rank has only HBO.
                Golden Boy still wanted to work with HBO but HBO said no way.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  Golden Boy still wanted to work with HBO but HBO said no way.
                  Why would HBO ever consider working with GBP once they moved Floyd to Showtime?

                  And espinza assured the cold war lasts forever, you look at some of these 3-4 fight cards, there all GBP fighters and all haymon guys. Some of these cards are incredibly bad, and somehow fans think there good because it's guys they heard of and there's 4 fights.

                  It's just one big free paycheck for golden boy, that's all esponza does, hand them showtimes entire budget.

                  How the fck fights like trout/Lara get made? Nobody asked for that garbage. Zab/malignaggi? You kidding me with this crap?

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                    #89
                    If anyone doesn't understand why Showtime threw its weight behind Mayweather than you dont know business. Espinoza knows Floyd is not going to stop fighting after this current contract expires. Any credible threat to Mayweather is gone now. He can fight another 5 years and still retire undefeated. Anything short of Manny catching Bradley and knocking him out is going to be frowned upon. And then there is that JMM problem he has hanging over his head.

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                      #90
                      It doesnt matter whos to blame, Golden Boy is putting out a superior product. Arum is on his hater ****. To say one side is to blame is idiotic.

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