Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Turns His Back on Mayweather Fight, For Now

[check hook]

Please show the citation for your postulat. I cannot find it.

It happened. They wanted JMM to do OST, he said no problem as long as Manny get's tested aswell, and then they dropped the request.

[GRUSTLER]

It happened. They wanted JMM to do OST, he said no problem as long as Manny get's tested aswell, and then they dropped the request.

Everything is in the link. I don't understand what more to show him.

[Mayabang]

Look dip****, you don't know **** about me so shut your assh0le please, seriously you contribute nothing. I say what I feel I need to, no one is forcing to me since no one knows me here, so again **** you. You are not looking at my complete post history dummy, but I live to oppose people like you.

DUDE YOU STRAIGHT UP BULLSHITTED AND I CALLED YOU OUT. You ****** or something? You been talking trash about Manny,and then you say you don't dislike him? What kind of ******ed logic is that? Do you even read your own posts? Damn you're ******, lol. "I live to oppose people like you" LOL what are you 12 years old? Who talks like that?

The funny thing is, you'll probably start being cautious of what you write from now on just to "prove" you "don't dislike" manny, so good luck with that, lol.

[The Big Dunn]

you are FULL OF SHIT. Time and time again you hate on Manny, you can see it in your post history. Posters like you make me sick, where they love to talk shit, and when confronted turns right around and starts saying things like "oh no, i don't hate him, blah blah" Who do you think you're fooling?

why is it that if you post the truth about manny and it makes him look bad or make fun about the mistakes he's made that you equate that to hating him?

Is the only way a poster can prove he likes manny is to say only nice things about him?

[smoothsmg]

Hey bud, you said that he never said "I'm a rich coward" ..... but Floyd has said those exact words and also different variations of it.
EXAMPLE:
1) "I hope they keep giving me those cherry picked fights and I keep winning and making easy money"
2) "So and so can say what he wants but I have earned the right to carefully select whoever I want to fight."
3) "Health comes first"


With Floyd you don't even have to read between the lines. Floyd tells you Floyd fans but you block your ears and pretend and pretend that Floyd never says those lines .... then say "oh, it's all out of context"

How many excuses does it take a Floyd fan to hear from Floyd until they get that Floyd was "too concerned" to lose his precious "0" so he stayed away from risky fights?

To your first point, this is the context thing again. He never said his team is cherry picking fights. Use the whole quote if you are going to use it. He was stating how PEOPLE (haters and retractors) continue to say he picks the easiest fights and they are all "cherry picked."

Lets go back all the way to 2006:
Zab Judah - Highly anticipated fight. This is the fight everyone wanted to see. Even though Zab just lost to Baldomir, this was THE FIGHT everyone was talking about.

Carlos Baldomir - Interviews from people were stating that he was ducking Baldomir by fighting Zab. Then they stated Baldomir was too big for him and he would get bullied around the ring. Once Floyd totally outboxed him, a man who had not lost in almost 10 years was a cherry pick and the worst lineal champ ever. Go figure

Oscar - Oscar was also stated to be too big and strong for Floyd and would beat up Floyd, once fight is over, Oscar is over the hill.

Hatton - This is the one that kills me the most. People NOW complain so much about Hatton moving up one weight class to fight. Im astonished how a fight between two top five pound for pound fighters is a bad thing.But again, Floyd has never seen a brawler like Hatton and he would get bullied around the ring by Hatton. Once Floyd beats him, Hatton was never that good, some even called him a bum.

JMM - Yes the two weight class was excessive for JMM, but people act like Floyd pushed and bullied him around the ring with strength. He clearly put on a boxing clinic with timing and footwork.

Mosley - Another one that gets to me. People were saying Floyd would not fight Shane after he destroyed Margarito. Once he fights and beats him, Shane is over the hill and old and now considered a cherry pick.

Ortiz - Floyd has never seen such a tough, young, physical fighter is what was said. Ortiz would bully him around the ring. Once the fight is over, Ortiz is a cherry pick (even though he just came off beating an undefeated young rising star at the time).

Cotto - I think most stuck with their guns on this one and stated Cotto was past his prime and been in too many battles of recently. Granted the 3 wins before the Floyd fight were not "great," but the turning point was revenge on Margarito, which Cotto even stated he gained all the confidence he lost after the first Margarito fight. Sometimes its not who you fight, its when you fight them.

Guerrero - When was Floyd brought the name Devon Alexander up, people were stating that he was ducking Guerrero (after a fight of the year with Berto). Once he fights Guerrero, its a cherry pick, so on and so forth.

Canelo - This was Floyd ducking all the way. No way he would get in the ring with this strong heavy handed young fighter. The 152 I dont care for, but in the ring Canelo had no chance, and then was considered too green, inexperienced and not that good.

You see the theme?

[jwheels9876]

Man get out of here with that nonsense. I was always down for them to fight. Why do you think that I stay going at people who try to twist and change history? Pacquiao fans said "Floyd ain't the commission" "Let the commission do their jobs". "Floyd never asked anyone else to take random blood tests so why Manny". "Floyd is ducking by asking for the tests". Manny doesn't have to do what Floyd says". Those are lines from people that don't want to see the fight AND now that Mayweather is asking him to leave Arum to make the fight, Pacquiao fans are complaining about that too! So who in the hell don't want to see the fight? Why is it so hard for him to leave Arum when his contract is up?

Plenty of fighters have done it for Arum and even Cotto did it for Floyd. But Pacquiao fans say "Floyd is scared because he knows that Pacquiao can't leave Arum" WHY NOT?! This can be done but Manny doing it is impossible? How can Floyd be scared of Manny for asking him to leave his promoter for the fight? That's a DAMN offer BUT Pacquiao fans will say "Floyd don't really want to fight". JACK ASSES! Manny don't want the fight because if he wanted the fight then he would do what it took to get it. Floyd left Arum for Oscar... it has been done!

I think it is insulting for you to say Floyd fans don't want to see the fight when all we have been saying was for Manny to agree BUT Manny fans keep making excuses on why Manny shouldn't like he is bigger or just as big as Mayweather but reality is.... he ain't no more. the only thing he has as big as Mayweather is his ego.

Your last sentence is absolutely correct. He NO LONGER is as big as Floyd, but in 2009 he was every bit or bigger then Floyd and Floyd was the one putting demands on Manny. They tried making the fight through mediation but just couldn't agree. Never in boxing has a guy put demands on a fighter like Floyd has Manny publicly.
I understand he may have believed Manny was on PED's but at that time nobody was doing testing like that and it's easily understandable why Arum and company saw it as strong arming on Floyds part. Sometimes you have to look at it from both sides no matter who you're a fan of.

[ironmt]

why is it that if you post the truth about manny and it makes him look bad or make fun about the mistakes he's made that you equate that to hating him?

Is the only way a poster can prove he likes manny is to say only nice things about him?

Look at your first question or the first part of your post and ask yourself If that same question doesn't also apply to Floyd(replace Mannys name with Floyds). As far as your second question goes, generally speaking, at least where I am from, when you say unkind or not such nice things about someone, that generally means you do not like them. Maybe the rules are different where you live.

[The Big Dunn]

Look at your first question or the first part of your post and ask yourself If that same question doesn't also apply to Floyd(replace Mannys name with Floyds). As far as your second question goes, generally speaking, at least where I am from, when you say unkind or not such nice things about someone, that generally means you do not like them. Maybe the rules are different where you live.

Dude, we can all differentiate. If you tease a fighter or point out crap he does that doesn't mean you hate him.

There are some things said about fighters that we agree suggests you hate them. Pointing out their mistakes, indescretions, etc. is not indicative of hate.

I would think we can agree on that.

[V.WEBB]

It happened. They wanted JMM to do OST, he said no problem as long as Manny get's tested aswell, and then they dropped the request.

Yea. Not sure how anyone could not remember this if they paid attention.

[smoothsmg]

Yea. Not sure how anyone could not remember this if they paid attention.

They try to forget it. If I remember correctly, Bradley wanted testing too, but was told if he requested it, the fight would be off.