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Originally posted by ironmt View PostWhat Is bizarre Is the amount of time you spend on this forum contributing nothing but hate filled rants against a boxer and It's fans that you obviously despise. Why Is It that you have no problem calling Pacquiao out on the doping allegations and his tax problems and all the other rhetoric you babble on about, on a daily basis, yet you fail to criticize Mayweather for his strange hobbies, such as beating his girlfriend Josie Harris while two of their children watched, or the two separate domestic disputes with Melissa Brim. It seems your hero Isn't as choosy at deciding his next female victim, as he Is at deciding his next fight In the ring.
You must familiarize yourself with my post history (don't trouble yourself) because I call out Floyd for what he was, for being a domestic abuser, a ****ing coward to dare raise his hand to a female. So in my real life I'm a "case manager," I work with abused women, homeless people and splintered families. I have some understanding about what violence against women and children does. This is why I separate Floyd the boxer I so admire, and Floyd the man I utterly despise. I know I'd be the better man to understand Floyd's life in context, but I can't forgive that and I never will.
I admire the boxer and businessman in Floyd but he's no role model in my humble estimation. Any man that lays his hands on a woman is worthy of prison time and public ridicule.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostThe amount of animus you say I contribute is what I feel as an African American coming to the NSB at times. I feel like **** sometimes coming here and reading all of the Mayweather hate, and that feeling has informed how I respond these days. It isn't how I started here. I started here begging for sanity and reason but as time went on I realized no one was listening or cared to, and there are lots of reasons for this. (Trust me, I don't want to defend Floyd as much as I do.)
You must familiarize yourself with my post history (don't trouble yourself) because I call out Floyd for what he was, for being a domestic abuser, a ****ing coward to dare raise his hand to a female. So in my real life I'm a "case manager," I work with abused women, homeless people and splintered families. I have some understanding about what violence against women and children does. This is why I separate Floyd the boxer I so admire, and Floyd the man I utterly despise. I know I'd be the better man to understand Floyd's life in context, but I can't forgive that and I never will.
I admire the boxer and businessman in Floyd but he's no role model in my humble estimation. Any man that lays his hands on a woman is worthy of prison time and public ridicule.
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Originally posted by ironmt View PostWhat Is bizarre Is the amount of time you spend on this forum contributing nothing but hate filled rants against a boxer and It's fans that you obviously despise. Why Is It that you have no problem calling Pacquiao out on the doping allegations and his tax problems and all the other rhetoric you babble on about, on a daily basis, yet you fail to criticize Mayweather for his strange hobbies, such as beating his girlfriend Josie Harris while two of their children watched, or the two separate domestic disputes with Melissa Brim. It seems your hero Isn't as choosy at deciding his next female victim, as he Is at deciding his next fight In the ring.
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Originally posted by ironmt View PostThat was a respectable response. Is there a particular reason for the dislike for Pacquiao or does It have more to do with certain Pacquiao fans that spend the majority of there time on this board belittling Floyd.
What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.
As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostI don't dislike Manny. Any man that climbs into the ring and risks all and sometimes for so little earns my respect outright. I respect Manny the warrior, the man that laces up his gloves and lets his fists go like mother****ing lighting, yeah I do respect that because I want to see a good fight too.
What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.
As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostPoor dullard, a statement remarkably free of context. What is Mayweather saying? Is he saying he's a coward or is he saying that if he's thought of as a coward, then he's a rich coward? See, Pac's brain dead army grasp onto words and random phrases while the truth and subtlety of context eludes them.
EXAMPLE:
1) "I hope they keep giving me those cherry picked fights and I keep winning and making easy money"
2) "So and so can say what he wants but I have earned the right to carefully select whoever I want to fight."
3) "Health comes first"
With Floyd you don't even have to read between the lines. Floyd tells you Floyd fans but you block your ears and pretend and pretend that Floyd never says those lines .... then say "oh, it's all out of context"
How many excuses does it take a Floyd fan to hear from Floyd until they get that Floyd was "too concerned" to lose his precious "0" so he stayed away from risky fights?
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostI don't dislike Manny. Any man that climbs into the ring and risks all and sometimes for so little earns my respect outright. I respect Manny the warrior, the man that laces up his gloves and lets his fists go like mother****ing lighting, yeah I do respect that because I want to see a good fight too.
What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.
As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostHey bud, you said that he never said "I'm a rich coward" ..... but Floyd has said those exact words and also different variations of it.
EXAMPLE:
1) "I hope they keep giving me those cherry picked fights and I keep winning and making easy money"
2) "So and so can say what he wants but I have earned the right to carefully select whoever I want to fight."
3) "Health comes first"
With Floyd you don't even have to read between the lines. Floyd tells you Floyd fans but you block your ears and pretend and pretend that Floyd never says those lines .... then say "oh, it's all out of context"
How many excuses does it take a Floyd fan to hear from Floyd until they get that Floyd was "too concerned" to lose his precious "0" so he stayed away from risky fights?
Originally posted by ironmt View PostThanks for responding and helping me to understand where you are coming from. You made some very valid points. As far as hating Floyd, he makes It easy for the majority and that's why he Is reaping the rewards he Is receiving.
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