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    #41
    Originally posted by jwheels9876 View Post
    Manny fights whoever is put in front of him. Floyd carefully chooses each and every opponent and that's a fact...
    Arum carefully chooses each and every opponent for Manny, your point? and Arum did the same for floyd under TopRank

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      #42
      Originally posted by TheRebelSin View Post
      8 division champ let's check

      I say he's a 7 division champ cause beating a margarito that wast even a champ just a vacate belt so that's wack almost has wack has canleo and angluo being a title fight when angluo lost to Lara it should be Lara vs canelo for the belt now that more legit I'm compare in the 2 situations

      Second : Floyd wanted drug testing which is not an excuse look how many people coming up dirty. Clean on day dirty the next and when ur number 1 you don't want a cotto vs margarito 1 to happen and mess up ur career in fact if cotto won that fight he would of fought oscar and if he would of beat oscar he would of retired and there wouldn't be a manny pacquaio right now. This got derailed cause loaded gloves but I know no proof but just like we know oj did the murder we know he had loaded gloves.

      Third : the split of the money ? I believe 50/50 fair but manny did say he will take 60/40 to make it happen.
      Marquez is a great counter puncher but he's willing to stand in the pocket and trade with Manny

      Fourth : bob arum been trashing Floyd for a while now so Floyd don't want no parts of him. Cotto broke away from bob for the fight and it happen now if manny breaks away from bob and Floyd don't fight him then I can say its a ducking but I don't see why he would duck him. Marquez style is counter punching and gives manny super problems mayweather the god of counter punching.

      Now after 1 robbery and 1 Ko Lost manny in no position to make no demands.
      Last fight selling 500k at best I mean he lost all the leverage.

      But at the end manny great champion he gives to the people and you gotta respect it.

      Floyd at the end the best of his and this generation. He fought cotto after 4 straight wins fought hatton undefeated fought Shane after he crush margarita

      Pacquaio fought cotto after he lost to loaded gloves and then did horrible against clottey and then PAC fights him at 145 but fights Shane at 147 but fought Shane after losing to Floyd and looking horrible then he fight margarito after his lay off of a year.


      Now what I don't understand is how can manny beat people face in knock em down or ko bigger guys and now he can't even ko Brandon rios? I mean to me it seems his super power is no longer there but then again all this is my thoughts not saying is facts not saying this is the truth and everybody thoughts is not.

      Just sharing my thoughts on the subject.
      Marquez is a great counter puncher but he was willing to stand in the pocket and trade with Manny in order to beat him.look at his face even after his KO win, he was a mess. Floyd is a quick shot or 2 and out. Would he be willing to trade with Manny? Would he have to? Maybe not, but we know Manny would come to win and be throwing punches from different angles and moving and he's willing to take some to give some. That's what makes the fight so intriguing in my opinion.

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        #43
        Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
        You have Been too busy trolling

        After Floyd refused 21 days and Manny refused 14

        6 months later Manny said yes

        Then Floyd changed the terms

        I cannot be bothered to go into it but everything Manny agreed too kept being changed to the point now of Manny having to leave tr

        My last post as unlike you trying to lie, I know the truth as do most others like curtis who got tired of Floyd ducking
        Lets notf orget he wanted pac to join his promotion either as part of ones of his endless terms

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheRebelSin View Post
          8 division champ let's check

          I say he's a 7 division champ cause beating a margarito that wast even a champ just a vacate belt so that's wack almost has wack has canleo and angluo being a title fight when angluo lost to Lara it should be Lara vs canelo for the belt now that more legit I'm compare in the 2 situations

          Second : Floyd wanted drug testing which is not an excuse look how many people coming up dirty. Clean one day dirty the next and when ur number 1 you don't want a cotto vs margarito 1 to happen and mess up ur career in fact if cotto won that fight he would of fought oscar and if he would of beat oscar he would of retired and there wouldn't be a manny pacquaio right now. This got derailed cause loaded gloves but I know no proof but just like we know oj did the murder we know he had loaded gloves.

          Third : the split of the money ? I believe 50/50 fair but manny did say he will take 60/40 to make it happen.

          Fourth : bob arum been trashing Floyd for a while now so Floyd don't want no parts of him. Cotto broke away from bob for the fight and it happen now if manny breaks away from bob and Floyd don't fight him then I can say its a ducking but I don't see why he would duck him. Marquez style is counter punching and gives manny super problems mayweather the god of counter punching.

          Now after 1 robbery and 1 Ko Lost manny in no position to make no demands.
          Last fight selling 500k at best I mean he lost all the leverage.

          But at the end manny great champion he gives to the people and you gotta respect it.

          Floyd at the end the best of his and this generation. He fought cotto after 4 straight wins fought hatton undefeated fought Shane after he crush margarita

          Pacquaio fought cotto after he lost to loaded gloves and then did horrible against clottey and then PAC fights him at 145 but fights Shane at 147 but fought Shane after losing to Floyd and looking horrible then he fight margarito after his lay off of a year.


          Now what I don't understand is how can manny beat people face in knock em down or ko bigger guys and now he can't even ko Brandon rios? I mean to me it seems his super power is no longer there but then again all this is my thoughts not saying is facts not saying this is the truth and everybody thoughts is not.

          Just sharing my thoughts on the subject.

          Sorry to the best, you must fight the best and Floyd had avoided
          Pac, prime cotto- he fought him after Pac finished him, prime Mosley,Margo, Williams and kostya

          Manny on the other hand has fought much better guys not c level like Ortiz and guerrero, he has also chased Floyd for years while Floyd has ducked him

          Manny is this generations greatest, no contest

          Anyway I'm off

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            #45
            Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Post
            so they are only drained if pac fights em. gotcha. yeah you're a great poster dude but your mind is fogged with your hate for pacquiao, making you think irrationally.

            also, Pac's resume before he even MOVED UP to 147 is HOF credentials. Before he moved up to 147 didn't he own wins over 2x JMM 2x Barrera and 2x Morales?

            when mayweather moved up, he fought gatti, sharmba mitchell and carlos baldomir.

            when pacquiao moved up he fought delahoya, hatton, and cotto.

            when all said and done both are top 20 atg but pacquiao will have the greater legacy. sorry to break it to ya
            Ummm.... Floyd is considered one of the best Super Feather weights that ever did it there. Not Pacquiao. Manny fought De La Hoya and Hatton AFTER Floyd did. How is that more of an accomplishment than what Floyd did? Also, Floyd fought and beat Zab and Baldomir to become the WW champion. People always crap on Baldomir but he was the man to beat at WW after he beat Zab. Manny didn't beat JMM twice at the lower weights. He had a draw (126LBs) and a close debatable win over JMM (130LBs) . Pacquiao also got schooled by Erik Morales. Mayweather as of recent reign at WW has been way more impressive than Manny's. Manny fought at WW and has yet to fight a guy who actually has been at WW as long as he has been fighting there since Mosley. Floyd has been the champ of WW 2 more times since Baldomir making it 3 all together while Pacquiao hasn't done it at all. Both accomplished a lot but Floyd will go down with greater accolades for sure when it is all said and done.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              Posters who say Manny's legacy is over Floyd's in the sport of boxing are completely insane. It's easy to dislike Mayweather for some of the things he does and says but don't let the dislike and "hate" (a word I don't like to use) cloud your judgments. Manny spent his prime fighting guys who were guys Mayweather beat already, losers or fighters that did not look great in their fights prior. When was the last time Manny fought any fighter(s) who was coming off of a solid win? Bradley and Marquez and you see what happened to him. Floyd has fought actual WW's and Hoya,(154) Canelo at 154 (catch weight but Canelo was not drained) coming off of actual solid wins. I mean, I'm sick of them talking about this fight and all the coverage it continues to get because it's not going to make it happen, but in no way is Pacquiao's legacy more defined then Mayweather's in boxing. Floyd is the more impressive of the two. Khan is a crappy fight if it happens.
              I would disagree with the fact that Floyd has the better legacy at this point In there career's(that obviously could change) so, I guess I would be placed on the completely Insane list. You are correct, Manny did fight guys that Mayweather had already beat. The only difference Is, Manny beat them more decisively(Hatton, Cotto, DeLaHoya). That does not mean Pacquiao beats Mayweather, but I, as most people believe, he has the most legitimate chance and would most likely give Floyd the fight of his life. Pacquiao(IMO) also has the better resume, with two names In particular that stand out, which are Marco Antonio Barerra and Eric Morales.

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                #47
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Ummm.... Floyd is considered one of the best Super Feather weights that ever did it there. Not Pacquiao. Manny fought De La Hoya and Hatton AFTER Floyd did. How is that more of an accomplishment than what Floyd did? Also, Floyd fought and beat Zab and Baldomir to become the WW champion. People always crap on Baldomir but he was the man to beat at WW after he beat Zab. Manny didn't beat JMM twice at the lower weights. He had a draw (126LBs) and a close debatable win over JMM (130LBs) . Pacquiao also got schooled by Erik Morales. Mayweather as of recent reign at WW has been way more impressive than Manny's. Manny fought at WW and has yet to fight a guy who actually has been at WW as long as he has been fighting there since Mosley. Floyd has been the champ of WW 2 more times since Baldomir making it 3 all together while Pacquiao hasn't done it at all. Both accomplished a lot but Floyd will go down with greater accolades for sure when it is all said and done.
                Floyd is a great fighter and was one before he even became a PPV star. Belts don'tmatter wwhen you're beating guys like Guerrero and Ortiz.. those guys only beat Berto at WW and we know he turned out to be a steroid abuser and a hugely overrated guy.

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                  #48
                  I love the way my posts stings Pacquiao fans.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jwheels9876 View Post
                    Manny fights whoever is put in front of him. Floyd carefully chooses each and every opponent and that's a fact...
                    Really? Like Margarito when it was originally talked about? ("where not crazy"), Mosley in 09 (you"re too good) & Cotto at 154?(no thanks, only at catchweights).You have some weak facts there.

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                      #50
                      if he wants it so damn bad why did he turn the fight down 2 times?

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