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    #61
    Originally posted by sittingduck View Post
    People seem to forget that Pacquiao fought Cotto after Cotto nearly got murdered my Margarito. And Mayweather fought Cotto after Cotto came back and wrecked Margarito. I would rather fight the former Cotto for sure.
    Cotto fought Michael Jennings and Clottey after Margarito. You history revisionists always forget that Cotto fought two guys before facing Pacquiao. Cotto fought Yuri Foreman and got his belt, fought a shot Ricardo Mayorga, and catchweight fought a shot Margarito (Floydiots say he was shot after Mosley so he's shot here) before he fought Mayweather.

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      #62
      Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
      Lol sometimes fighters just do not think before they speak
      Exactly, I LOL'd like crazy in here.

      Ward is a great fighter, but damn he shot himself in the foot with those comments!

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        #63
        Originally posted by AntonTheMeh View Post
        so we can start discounting the dawson fight from his resume. good to know.
        lol..................

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          #64
          Little known facts! Pac did not demand Oscar to come in at 147, they both agreed to 147 without any issue. I looked up articles on this 3 months back. Also, there is an article that shows that Oscar wanted more speed and that is why he actually came in at 145 pounds at the weigh-in which was his decision. The fact is, Ward shot himself in the foot with his comments.

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            #65
            Originally posted by sittingduck View Post
            People seem to forget that Pacquiao fought Cotto after Cotto nearly got murdered my Margarito. And Mayweather fought Cotto after Cotto came back and wrecked Margarito. I would rather fight the former Cotto for sure.
            That 1st Cotto had one loss on his record, a highly suspect one which he thinks was fraudulent. This other Cotto was also thoroughly destroyed by Pac and gave up on winning by round 5.

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              #66
              Originally posted by sittingduck View Post
              People seem to forget that Pacquiao fought Cotto after Cotto nearly got murdered my Margarito. And Mayweather fought Cotto after Cotto came back and wrecked Margarito. I would rather fight the former Cotto for sure.
              Do you think it would be much better if Floyd fought prime Cotto, prime Margarito and prime Mosley instead of faking his retirement to duck these 3 monsters? Did you know Floyd watched these 3 from a safe distance damaging one another and when the dust settled down and all the damages were inflicted on these 3, he popped out from nowhere, dragged a lightweight to welterweight and weight cheated him (Marquez) on the scale. LMAO!

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                #67
                Originally posted by Zano-24 View Post
                Honestly if you look at Manny's fights at 147 what Ward said is the truth. Most of the guys he beat there were already washed up or coming off of bad losses or already going down hill. Mosley,Cotto,Hatton,Rios and hell even Margarito was coming off a KO loss to Mosley. I not going to even count Oscar because that was Oscar's own doing by biting off too much. Which is odd because Mosley called out Manny after he beat Margarito and they ducked him and said they would only fight him at a CW of 142 pounds... But then after Mayweather beat him and then he looked shot vs Mora then all of a sudden they were green to fight Mosley. People need to realize that both Manny and Floyd are doing to same thing. In Floyd's case he is fighting fighters coming off a big wins. That is the honest truth if you really look at it without a bias mind.
                Before fighting Pacquiao:
                Cotto = Beat Michael Jennings and Joshua Clottey
                Hatton = Beat Juan Lazcano and Paulie Malignaggi
                Margarito = Beat Roberto Garcia
                Mosley = Split draw against Sergio Mora

                I can't blame you on Margarito and Mosley but Cotto and Hatton were solid opponents both coming off solid wins. Hatton was actually the lineal champ at 140.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
                  I can't believe people STILL don't know that Dawson was the one who wanted to come down to 168.
                  And Oscar was the one who wanted to come in at 145 for Pac so what's your point?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by straightleft View Post
                    Oscar offered the fight should be at 154. Super featherweight Pac demanded the fight should be at 147. So for you Pac should fought (move up 4 weight divisions) Oscar at 154 right? That's why all these floydiots are really idiots. When Floyd a 2 times 154 champ demanded a catchweight against a fellow champ at 154 these idiots gave heavenly praises for Floyd.
                    Oscar didn't offer 154. His rematch with Floyd was gonna be at either 147 or 150 CW, don't remember. When that fell through, he decided to cherrypicked a p4p better ranked midget (tried Hatton first) so took the Forbes fight at 150 to get used to it.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by El Angel View Post
                      Ward stomps Dawson regardless of the weight, two different classes of fighter. Wasn't Ward's fault that Dawson offered 168, but do you hold it against Floyd that he took Canelo's offer of 152?

                      And some posters always think Oscar-Pacquiao was at a CW.
                      That right??

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