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Originally posted by way2strong View PostIMO I feel that pac will forever be remembered as a ATG while floyd will fade away as a great once he retires or loses since he never dared to step into the ring with the greats/atg's of manny's era ...... Who's next on Wards list of destruction another man who dared to face them all and won everytime he did
Surely you are not speaking of De La Hoya, who Mayweather beat 1 year and a half prior at a heavier weight class. You sure as hell can't be talking about Ricky Hatton, who Floyd TKO'ed 1 year and a half prior. Hopefully it's not Mosley, who Floyd beat when he was still seen as dangerous, or Marquez who Floyd handily beat in the same weight class that he KO'ed Pacquiao? Oh, you're talking about Cotto? Yeah, Floyd did the Pacquiao and fought after he already lost, but still a solid win over the #1 ranked JMW.
So what greats are you talking about again? Can't be MAB and Morales, who never shared the same weight class Floyd.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostNot really. Simply because a segment of the boxing community is salivating over a fight like this doesn't mean Floyd or Manny for that matter must be ultimately defined by each other. I can't imagine that one fight not happening ends up being so damaging to a fighter's career that has been defined by excellence.
What, Floyd is to be denied because some loonies thought Pacquiao was the one to beat him, and since he didn't give them that satisfaction Floyd's legacy is tarnished? Please.....
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Originally posted by Andre WardJust compare the De La Hoya fight for Pacquiao, with the one with Floyd. Floyd did not have any say in the ring size, he fought at a weight class above his, I think De La Hoya got to pick the gloves, everything was against Floyd with De La Hoya compared to when Manny fought him.
Manny and Floyd had no say in the negotiations when it came to Oscar because Oscar was the A-side. Manny also came up TWO weight classes.
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Originally posted by Twako View Postthis ^^^
i like ward but to criticize catchweights is very hypocritical of him. he hasn't even dared stepping out of his comfort weight zone, while pac climbed 7 divisions already. and you can't criticize manny for the delahoya fight, oscar cherrypicked him and set the weight class they'd fight in.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostAnd these greats you are talking about are who exactly? Margarito, Clottey, Bradley, Rios?
Surely you are not speaking of De La Hoya, who Mayweather beat 1 year and a half prior at a heavier weight class. You sure as hell can't be talking about Ricky Hatton, who Floyd TKO'ed 1 year and a half prior. Hopefully it's not Mosley, who Floyd beat when he was still seen as dangerous, or Marquez who Floyd handily beat in the same weight class that he KO'ed Pacquiao? Oh, you're talking about Cotto? Yeah, Floyd did the Pacquiao and fought after he already lost, but still a solid win over the #1 ranked JMW.
So what greats are you talking about again? Can't be MAB and Morales, who never shared the same weight class Floyd.
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Originally posted by PBP View PostHe's 10 steps ahead of you. He wants to fight for the heavyweight title before he retires.
In Oscar fight, don't forget Pac came up TWO DIVISIONS above with just one fight at lightweight to boot. A former flyweight champ moving up virtually 3 divisions above to fight someone like Oscar was already an accomplishment, beating him in one sided and retired is another.Last edited by straightleft; 01-06-2014, 08:11 PM.
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Originally posted by FrankieBrunoPeople all butthurt by the frank truth
Floyd always goes one step beyond his weight class
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Originally posted by Walter White View PostLOL WHUT Andre WTF?
Manny and Floyd had no say in the negotiations when it came to Oscar because Oscar was the A-side. Manny also came up TWO weight classes.
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