Comments Thread For: Maidana Taunts Mayweather Over Broner's Defeat

[TLC8]

Cotto is younger than Floyd so are you saying Floyd is to old. And since when does Canelo or Marquez lead with there chin or him being one dimensional. Since Marquez is to small then there's no need for a Manny fight correct.

Cotto older in terms of wars.... Cotto has had a jillion wars in his career. Floyd avoids those fights. Canelo walks straight north and south in every fight, ask Austin Trout. He can't move side to side, gets hit way too much, ask Austin Trout. I'd say he is one dimensional and leads with his chin. Marquez was at least 20 pounds lighter than Floyd on fight night... on purpose. Floyd gave back purse money for coming in so much heavier, just to insure he had the size advantage. Marquez lead with the chin??? One of the easiest guys in boxing to hit. Small? Smaller than floyd was on fight night, and Manny gave Marquez 4 fights, never opposed to war-ing with Marquez.... and in the last fight was considerably larger than Manny, with no random drug testing in place. With random drug testing in place, Marquez looked like a slow, step behind, 40 year old against Bradley and that's why he lost a decision, and once again is whining blaming the judges for his loss. Manny sought yet a 5th fight with Marquez and he chose to take half the emoney to fight what he thought was an easier route to another belt; guessed wrong. Marquez knows he can train any harder than he did for his last Pacquiao fight, and he was out of gas by the 5th round, had just been dropped, when he landed his hail mary at the end of the 6th round. With drug testing in place for a 5th fight, Marquez gets stopped by the 5th round. BUT there will be no other fight. So suit yourself.

[TLC8]

You basically discredit every single fighter that Mayweather has fought/beaten. Saying that in other words, they are all garbage, even though all of these same fighters you criticize were champions with achievements.

Using your pattern of reasoning, if Floyd loses to his next opponent, will you then say that opponent only beat Floyd because he was too old being that he would be 37?

Not at all... I will say, this is exactly what happened to Roy Jones when he hand picked his career to death, per his HBO contract, until he picked wrong and saddled up with some no name Antonio Tarver that train wrecked Roy Jones, then came back and did it again. Floyd will get his "Antonio Tarver" at some point too. Floyd has had three wars in his career... Judah, Cotto, and Oscar. He's taken the safest, most strategic route since. I'm sorry that hurts your feelings. I get that you're a Mayweather lover. He has talent no question. He lacks ballz. You can't help him there. Money is more important than fighting the best at their best. I'm sorry you feel I'm discrediting everyone Floyd fought, but Floyd chose those guys WHEN he chose them. Floyd avoided those guys WHEN he chose to avoid them. I don't give a lot of credit to that. You think about all the epic original SUPER FIGHTS that were had by names like Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Arguello, Pryor, Benitez, Chavez Sr, Dela Hoya, Mosley, Trinidad, Sanchez... warriors. Fought the best of the best, multiple times if need be, all in their prime.... does any of that sink in? And let me add... I never said all Floyd's opponents were garabage, but the timing for WHEN he fought several of them was very strategic to avoid them in their prime.

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So dumba$$ Cotto was trying to fight Floyd in 2002 when he was a lightweight before Cotto went pro. A bloody nose doesn't equal a face swollen. But 2008 and 2012 doesn't equal close to ten years.

Not true at all clown.... I'd give anything if you knew what you were talking about, relating to Boxing. Junior Mayweather has done a stellar job finding the least risk to the bank...

[R_Walken]

LOL.... So now you don't want to give Floyd credit for the Judah win???? No love affair with Manny at all, but it's the same old story we saw with Cotto & Mosley... all were very dangerous in their prime, they fought everybody in their primes. Floyd wouldnt touch either one of those guys. Pacquiao comes roaring on the scene destroying everyone, and Floyd has had 5 years to make that fight, and has too many excuses not to.... that's not a Champion. Most in Boxing didn't see Floyd as victorious over Oscar and neither did I! Oscar offered a $25M immediate rematch, and heard crickets from Floyd...... Look, I just love Boxing. I love the legends that paved the way for the next breed. As I said earlier, had Floyd come in and beat Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez all in their prime, then offered a rematch just to show it was not a fluke, he's the man... I don't even care Mayweather has a "0"... I have no problem with that; it's manufactured, and he admits as much. I don't care who won any of the 4 Marquez fights! Or any of the three Morales fights and YES Barrera was in his prime when he fought Manny. Manny came into his own when he got to 140/147........Manny Pacquiao always had the ballz to climb in the ring with them..... Floyd doesn't wear that same sack.

This "emotionally scarred" comment is just dumb.... Alvarez was 23, inexperienced, and got schooled. Lets see how Alvarez bounces back during a time he has Chavez, Jr, Gennady, and possibly Andre Ward at '68, where in a couple years, Alvarez easily makes that fight weight wise.

Ill give him credit for Judah I just think its f'd up that's the only fight you give him credit for. And I'll disagree with you I think most people thought Floyd beat Mayweather show me proof that the majority of people thought Oscar won I don't think you can. And come on man you have to admit Margarito wasn't the same after the fight with Mosely he was damaged goods and I'm a Margarito fan but whether it was confidence or self doubt, lack of loaded gloves or physical decline he wasn't the same after Mosely IMO.

I'm not a Canelo fan I feel he's been babied his whole career but if you give Manny credit for Clottey because of the size disadvantage why isn't Floyd given the same credit. And I don't think Canelo beats GGG, Ward , Chavez Jr could go either way.

And I agree with you I don't care If a boxer has a 0 either, Like I said Manny is a legend and he faced crazy competition in the ring but lets not act like ever since Manny stepped up to Welterweight hes faced legends in their prime coming off career defining wins. They have been as cautiously picked out as Mayweathers every fight was favored for Manny to win
Oscar- Hasn't fought at that weight in how long / Past prime
Hatton- Mayweathers leftovers
Cotto - fought after being slaughtered by Margarito / Loaded gloves incident / CW
Margarito- Shell of his former self / CW
Clottey - Coming off a loss
Mosely - Old as ***** / 2 1/2 years from last win
Marquez 3 - Made him go up in weight / Arguably lost fight
Bradley- Had to come up in weight / Not a power puncher
Marquez 4 - KO cold
Rios - Coming off a loss had to come in weight.

Exuses can be made for Mannys Resume after Dela Hota Arum carefully picked his competition. I'll give him credit but he's just as protected as Mayweather he just hasn't won every time and there's no shame in that it's just a fact.

[TLC8]

Maidana is no more dangerous than Guerrero though. Guerrero a dirtier fighter than Maidana, and one who loved inside dog fights. And on top of that Guerrero is a southpaw. Wasn't the consensus that Floyd can't handle southpaws well? Maidana isn't even a southpaw, so he doesn't even have that as an edge going into the fight. At least Guerrero had that stylistic advantage.

You think you're Jim Lampley or something???? Guerrero had NO "stylistic advantage".... how ****** is that comment!! LOL... Guerrero loves to **** inside and get dirty, I agree with that. But it takes two to fight that fight. After Floyd got hit with Guerrero's body shots in the first two rounds, he was on his bicycle, knowing Guerrero would only march ahead flat footed and get jabbed to death. That's how it played out. Maidana is more dangerous than Guerrero for having much faster hands and moves better in the ring. Listen, let me remind you... Maidana had a fight all signed, sealed and delivered with Guerrero, was deep it training camp, when Guerrero hurt his shoulder, and cancelled the fight. Guerrero healed, came back calling out Mayweather and everyone in Boxing, except for Maidana. He's not mentioned nor shown any interest in rescheduling the fight he had set with Maidana, leading us all to believe, he never wanted the fight to start with, or with the recent progression in Maidana's career, Guerrero has no interest in rescheduling that fight... so draw up your own conclusions.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Cotto older in terms of wars.... Cotto has had a jillion wars in his career. Floyd avoids those fights. Canelo walks straight north and south in every fight, ask Austin Trout. He can't move side to side, gets hit way too much, ask Austin Trout. I'd say he is one dimensional and leads with his chin. Marquez was at least 20 pounds lighter than Floyd on fight night... on purpose. Floyd gave back purse money for coming in so much heavier, just to insure he had the size advantage. Marquez lead with the chin??? One of the easiest guys in boxing to hit. Small? Smaller than floyd was on fight night, and Manny gave Marquez 4 fights, never opposed to war-ing with Marquez.... and in the last fight was considerably larger than Manny, with no random drug testing in place. With random drug testing in place, Marquez looked like a slow, step behind, 40 year old against Bradley and that's why he lost a decision, and once again is whining blaming the judges for his loss. Manny sought yet a 5th fight with Marquez and he chose to take half the emoney to fight what he thought was an easier route to another belt; guessed wrong. Marquez knows he can train any harder than he did for his last Pacquiao fight, and he was out of gas by the 5th round, had just been dropped, when he landed his hail mary at the end of the 6th round. With drug testing in place for a 5th fight, Marquez gets stopped by the 5th round. BUT there will be no other fight. So suit yourself.

Mayweather was at least 20 pounds heavier than Marquez? They came within 4 pounds at the weighin and so youre saying Mayweather gained 16 more pounds than Marquez did post-weigh in? lmaooooooooo

[AgainstTheRopes]

You think you're Jim Lampley or something???? Guerrero had NO "stylistic advantage".... how ****** is that comment!! LOL... Guerrero loves to **** inside and get dirty, I agree with that. But it takes two to fight that fight. After Floyd got hit with Guerrero's body shots in the first two rounds, he was on his bicycle, knowing Guerrero would only march ahead flat footed and get jabbed to death. That's how it played out. Maidana is more dangerous than Guerrero for having much faster hands and moves better in the ring. Listen, let me remind you... Maidana had a fight all signed, sealed and delivered with Guerrero, was deep it training camp, when Guerrero hurt his shoulder, and cancelled the fight. Guerrero healed, came back calling out Mayweather and everyone in Boxing, except for Maidana. He's not mentioned nor shown any interest in rescheduling the fight he had set with Maidana, leading us all to believe, he never wanted the fight to start with, or with the recent progression in Maidana's career, Guerrero has no interest in rescheduling that fight... so draw up your own conclusions.

Maidana got thoroughly outclassed by Alexander, was taking heavy shots from Khan, Soto-Karass, and even Lopez. Guerrero turned down Thurman recently and I'd give Thurman much higher odds of beating Mayweather than Maidana.

[radioraheem]

You think you're Jim Lampley or something???? Guerrero had NO "stylistic advantage".... how ****** is that comment!! LOL... Guerrero loves to **** inside and get dirty, I agree with that. But it takes two to fight that fight. After Floyd got hit with Guerrero's body shots in the first two rounds, he was on his bicycle, knowing Guerrero would only march ahead flat footed and get jabbed to death. That's how it played out. Maidana is more dangerous than Guerrero for having much faster hands and moves better in the ring. Listen, let me remind you... Maidana had a fight all signed, sealed and delivered with Guerrero, was deep it training camp, when Guerrero hurt his shoulder, and cancelled the fight. Guerrero healed, came back calling out Mayweather and everyone in Boxing, except for Maidana. He's not mentioned nor shown any interest in rescheduling the fight he had set with Maidana, leading us all to believe, he never wanted the fight to start with, or with the recent progression in Maidana's career, Guerrero has no interest in rescheduling that fight... so draw up your own conclusions.

Re-read. I said that Guerrero is a SOUTHPAW. The assumption from critics is that Mayweather has problems with SOUTHPAWS. Guerrero had that 'stylistic advantage' going for him in that he's a SOUTHPAW. But Maidana is NOT a southpaw. Pointing out that being a southpaw is a stylistic advantage for Guerrero requires little intelligence. Just like that would be an advantage for Pacquaio if/when facing Floyd too.

Second, Guerrero had been calling out Mayweather before even taking the Maidana fight. In fact, the only reason he was willing to fight Maidana was to position himself for a Mayweather fight. His ultimate goal was Mayweather. Guerrero was pretty obsessed with getting it. When Guerrero came back, he fought Selcuk Aydin for the interim belt (Aydin was undefeated, ranked higher than Maidana, and was the #1 contender for Floyd's belt). Then Guerrero fought Berto after and got his dream wish.

Honestly, after Guerrero got his dream fight, I'm not sure who he'll fight next. I'm not even sure if he cares about boxing anymore. He seemed only hungry to get the Mayweather fight. And once that hunger got fulfilled, it's like he's done.

[TLC8]

Ill give him credit for Judah I just think its f'd up that's the only fight you give him credit for. And I'll disagree with you I think most people thought Floyd beat Mayweather show me proof that the majority of people thought Oscar won I don't think you can. And come on man you have to admit Margarito wasn't the same after the fight with Mosely he was damaged goods and I'm a Margarito fan but whether it was confidence or self doubt, lack of loaded gloves or physical decline he wasn't the same after Mosely IMO.

I'm not a Canelo fan I feel he's been babied his whole career but if you give Manny credit for Clottey because of the size disadvantage why isn't Floyd given the same credit. And I don't think Canelo beats GGG, Ward , Chavez Jr could go either way.

And I agree with you I don't care If a boxer has a 0 either, Like I said Manny is a legend and he faced crazy competition in the ring but lets not act like ever since Manny stepped up to Welterweight hes faced legends in their prime coming off career defining wins. They have been as cautiously picked out as Mayweathers every fight was favored for Manny to win
Oscar- Hasn't fought at that weight in how long / Past prime
Hatton- Mayweathers leftovers
Cotto - fought after being slaughtered by Margarito / Loaded gloves incident / CW
Margarito- Shell of his former self / CW
Clottey - Coming off a loss
Mosely - Old as ***** / 2 1/2 years from last win
Marquez 3 - Made him go up in weight / Arguably lost fight
Bradley- Had to come up in weight / Not a power puncher
Marquez 4 - KO cold
Rios - Coming off a loss had to come in weight.

Exuses can be made for Mannys Resume after Dela Hota Arum carefully picked his competition. I'll give him credit but he's just as protected as Mayweather he just hasn't won every time and there's no shame in that it's just a fact.

Bro... I gotta help you out here... maybe you need drug tested. Floyd never fought Mayweather... that too would have been too risky of a fight.

Secondly, you're right, Margarito had no game left after Mosley train wrecked him. What you need to be mindful of, is Pacquaio fought Margarito before Mosley did. Floyd stayed the hell away from Margarito after he cut Cotto to shreds. Pacquiao, some 25lbs lighter, said he would never fight a guy as big as Margarito again, yet Pacquiao shattered Margs orbital bone on the way to a stellar win.

Canelo on the other hand, you say he's been babied his "whole career"; he's ONLY 23!!! How long has that babied career been???? Damn he's still a baby, so I guess he's on track! Floyd is what, 37, been in the game 17 years... he's also bigger than Manny Pacquiao... what credit are you looking for, Floyd??? That he schooled a 23 year old who was bigger than him??? Canelo can beat Sergio Martinez, Chavez Jr, and maybe Cotto... But he's not ready for Gennady or Ward. But he's only 23... he has time. Sergio is done, and Cotto is right on his heals.

And finally... Pacquiao hasn't cautiously picked out anyone when he arrived at 147, are you kidding me. He fought and destroyed Margarito at '54, and said he'd never fight that heavy again. He fought who was available at '47. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Dela Hoya, Mosley, Hatton, Marquez, Bradley, Rios... he's begged for Floyd for 5 years and Junior won't make the fight. Prior to Rios, Pacquiao called out an immediate rematch with Marquez, who he extended 4 fights to, and JMM declined the invitation, and took half the money to fight Bradley, like you said, doesn't hit so hard. Manny called out for a rematch with Bradley, and he declined for half the money and a 40 yr old he would have drug testing in place for. Rios was a third option. Everyone else had an upcoming dance partner, or just finished their dance. Pacquiao doesn't know hand picking...

[SoulByThePound]

LOL SO THIS isnt classless only when mayweather does it?