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    #81
    Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
    the author is out of his mind...when was pacquiao suspected of being a dirty fighter? there was never a proof pacquiao was into drugs..

    chicken floyd has his own reasons for ducking the fight...after pac demolished cotto, mosley, clottey, hatton, delahoya and margarito, chicken floyd changed his mind and there is no way somebody can force him to fight because what engulf himself is fear...fear of getting knockout by pacquiao...
    This is Exactly correct and readers on NSB should take heed. The helpless who just throw out insolent garbage like needles etc...... should take their eyes off of such nonsense and place them on the fighters you said Pac has demolished.

    Fear of the ONE who can dismantle Jr is Paramount and no sane person can deny it. I don't care how many times Pac gets KO'd he will still be JR's personal threat,, We know it , but More profoundly JR KNOWS IT !!!!

    IF after 4 years of Ducking , running , Hiding , frivolous demands , frivolous purses like that lunacy of giving Pac 40 mil and then taking all the PPV which would go to 200 mil and then hear the LOONIES moan that Pac turned down 40 mil, OOOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh such DumbA$$ statements.

    PACMAN is JR's THREAT and he is a coward not to FACE IT !!!!!!!!!

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      #82
      Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
      I remember the video where manny said "there are no more issue with testing only purse split" which we later learned meant he agreed to testing only if he got 50/50. floyd was on record as saying he was no longer giving that split so to say he "agreed" to testing isn't 100% exact-he agreed to it so long as floyd met a condition which floyd said he wouldn't meet.
      Again, I have listed reasons why both sides are to blame and Pac's mistake was agreeing to something without Arum who would always jump in an tell the media that Pac cannot make arrangements without him. Now lets have you list the ways Floyd has thrown a wrench into the plans as I have done with Pac/Arum.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
        so manny wanted to fight floyd, he just didn't want to do so on terms negotiated by both fighters. wow.
        LOL Right? Its funny how blinded fans can be about things concerning their favorite fighters. Good one though.

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          #84
          Originally posted by richardt View Post
          He agreed, so this argument about not agreeing is dated and no longer applicable. He agreed to full random testing, THAT is why Floyd called him on the phone and made a flat out offer.
          Again we don't know that to be 100%. Saying so and putting it on paper are two different things. He said he agreed in 2011, but there was not fight. Further he didn't have one fight after that where there was random blood testing, not until now 2013.

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            #85
            Originally posted by richardt View Post
            Again, I have listed reasons why both sides are to blame and Pac's mistake was agreeing to something without Arum who would always jump in an tell the media that Pac cannot make arrangements without him. Now lets have you list the ways Floyd has thrown a wrench into the plans as I have done with Pac/Arum.
            floyd has refused to make manny as reasonable an offer since he turned down the fight in 09 over the PED testing. I've acknowledged that consistently.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              That doesn't make what you posted true. You know why they are booing?

              No he didn't. He allegedly agreed, only it became clear he agreed to take tests if floyd gave him 50/50.

              Either way, what you posted about why people buy floyd fights was ******ed.
              Actually, it's true, a lot of people watch Floyd's fights to see if he will lose and want him to lose...Why do you think people hate him in the first place? Because he's good? No...he's hated for his arrogance, putting people down, making excuses (Pac wasn't the only one he ducked, ask Antonio Margarito), beating his gf hurting his kids, and hitting his own damn body guard. I rest my case.

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                #87
                Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                Again we don't know that to be 100%. Saying so and putting it on paper are two different things. He said he agreed in 2011, but there was not fight. Further he didn't have one fight after that where there was random blood testing, not until now 2013.
                You don't understand how testing works whatsoever. A fighter doesn't just go out and take the test, hand the results to a Promoter and then they negotiate for a fight. The ONLY WAY testing agreements are put on paper is if there is a negotiation in process and it is added to the contract so I will excuse you for not knowing how testing works. Floyd called Pac and made a monetary offer and this was after Pac agreed to the tests. Pac at first did not agree to the cutoff and then agreed to all random testing, that is why Floyd was compelled to call and talk about the money split but he was wishful thinking that Pac would step around Arum although I wish Pac would but that could lead to an injunction and barring Pac from fighting till the case was settled and that would have been an epic *** up.
                Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 12:17 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by HIGHNESS View Post
                  Actually, it's true, a lot of people watch Floyd's fights to see if he will lose and want him to lose...Why do you think people hate him in the first place? Because he's good? No...he's hated for his arrogance, putting people down, making excuses (Pac wasn't the only one he ducked, ask Antonio Margarito), beating his gf hurting his kids, and hitting his own damn body guard. I rest my case.
                  yes some do. 80% is ridiculous. I can see why you were banned and had to create this alt. carry on.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    floyd has refused to make manny as reasonable an offer since he turned down the fight in 09 over the PED testing. I've acknowledged that consistently.
                    Good, we are moving toward an understanding of this. And the bottom line is both they and their monster ego-infested promoters and management are to blame, especially Arum.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by richardt View Post
                      Again, I have listed reasons why both sides are to blame and Pac's mistake was agreeing to something without Arum who would always jump in an tell the media that Pac cannot make arrangements without him. Now lets have you list the ways Floyd has thrown a wrench into the plans as I have done with Pac/Arum.
                      Yes i get the no PPV and 40 mil was bad but its the beginning of negotiations and Arum wasnt involved. It was a phone call. If i was fighting FLoyd i would ask for a phone booth ring and he has to wear 15lb shoes. Its called negotiating. Doenst mean im going to get it. Pac and crew just took that and ran with it as if it was final say. Didnt even try.

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