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    #51
    Originally posted by RockyIV View Post
    Didn't realize golden boy has dropped vada because their fighter can't pass the tests. Pretty shameful.
    You cannot take something out of the context in which it arose and then give meaning to it. The reality was that the drug testing demand was a late addition to mayweather's demands and appeared to be a clear power play. Given that both sides were playing games, who is to know what the motivations of either side were. One can say mayweather's 11th hour demand was designed to derail an agreement or that pacquiao used it as an excuse to not fight. Hard to say that drug testing in reality derailed the fight because later pacquiao accepted all testing publicly and mayweather refused to fight him. Given that happened, it is hard to really conclude that drug testing had anything to do with this fight not being made. Moreover, given arum's clear refusal to put pacquiao in the ring with mayweather later, one could argue that all this was a red herring because the fightvwasn't going to happen anyway. But let's not let the truth get in the way of a story. I won't go so far as to call it a good story because it isn't.

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      #52
      [quote=MRCHOKEaMF]
      Originally posted by I don't lose View Post
      so you're saying Floyd was dirty 39 times.
      READ SLOWLY THIS TIME
      You sound hurt. Did i hurt your feeling with a simple question you couldnt respond to. You deflect and attempt to redirect. WHY WOULD SOMEONE CLEAN AVOID A DRUG TEST? FOR A RECORD PAYDAY!
      Ever heard of Occam's razor. Sorry that may be over your head. Like the prior question was.


      “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are
      presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new
      evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is
      extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it
      is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize,
      ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” Franz Fannon

      Now run along youngin, grown folks are trying to have a conversation.
      Or just stfu when grown folks are talking.
      lmao
      Floyd avoided 39 tests. fact


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        #53
        Originally posted by HIGHNESS View Post
        But it was also very simple, why ask for testing? If they fought and Floyd lost, he could just demand testing for Pac, and if it came out positive, they would have eliminated the first Loss from his record anyway. This happened to many fighters who got their Wins taken away from getting caught. And why would Pacquiao look like a punk and go with all of Floyd's demands, when Pacquiao was the biggest star at the time? And also, what if you were good at arm wrestling and defeated everyone, and I came up to you, and challenged you but first you had to get tested...how would you feel? It takes more than just power to win in boxing if he did took steroids. Pacquiao had the foot work, some defense, chin, speed, and stamina.
        Oh how reactive this theory is, smh Why not just get the testing outta the way before the fight even happens? Why wait until the damage is done?

        You cant "pray for Magomed and his family", but confidently stand up and say that fighter should go through with a fight (against a fighter that he suspects is dirty), then wait til fight's over and ask for testing.

        Had the ref, Magomed's corner, or the ring doctors been proactive enough to stop the fight (regardless of whether he was "fighting back" or not), then he wouldn't be in such a serious condition (as we speak).

        I'm not giving Floyd an "out" here, but being proactive, rather than reactive, makes a huge difference.

        PS: This fight will NEVER happen!

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          #54
          Who is winning this Manny v Floyd fan tickle fight?

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            #55
            Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Post
            Manny didnt take the test because he knew he was dirty. ALL HE HAD TO DO IS TAKE THE TEST. For any grown as man to say a professional fighter is scared of a fight is immature, foolish, and just plain ******. ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHY WOULD A CLEAN FIGHTER DUCK A DRUG TEST?
            the answer is as simple as you and your response.
            Where are the facts here? Its just you with your gimpy, floyd fluffing logic pulling that straight out of your arse. Its pretty obvious and at the time was completely reasonable for Manny to tell Floyd to go **** himself. Only a ball guzzler would fail to see that. You bunch of dribbly little spastics have had that beaten into your heads a million times, a million different ways, but it never sinks in and never will.

            Floyd has also failed 3 drug tests since coming back, but hey, we wont talk about that.

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              #56
              I know this is old news, but it still seriously irritates me how Manny Pacquiao completely got a pass from the US media for refusing to take random blood testing in 2009.

              The su****ion was there. No one, and I mean no one in the 100+ years of boxing had ever gone up that many division and kept their power and speed like Pacquiao did. Not Roberto Duran, Chavez, Trinidad, Tommy Hearns, etc. They all lost a little something when they moved up in weight. That was enough to cause some su****ion considering the era we're in in sports today were when ever something extra ordinary was happening it was a result of cheating.

              Pacquiao had a chance to prove everyone wrong. All he had to do was agree to random blood testing and he declined. He throw all kinds of lame excuses. Remember the 30 days, then 24, then 14 excuses? This was so pathetic.

              The boxing media, should have been all over him for refusing to take the test, yet instead they focused on Floyd. They gave Pacquiao a HUGE PASS for this just like baseball did with Mcguire and Sosa in 98. It was pathetic and embarrassing. I'm sure just like baseball writers now, look back at that with embarrassment, so to will these boxing writers.

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                #57
                Lol these threads are always the same arguments with the same people involved. 2013 and we still got people talking about this bs.


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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                  I know this is old news, but it still seriously irritates me how Manny Pacquiao completely got a pass from the US media for refusing to take random blood testing in 2009.

                  The su****ion was there. No one, and I mean no one in the 100+ years of boxing had ever gone up that many division and kept their power and speed like Pacquiao did. Not Roberto Duran, Chavez, Trinidad, Tommy Hearns, etc. They all lost a little something when they moved up in weight. That was enough to cause some su****ion considering the era we're in in sports today were when ever something extra ordinary was happening it was a result of cheating.

                  Pacquiao had a chance to prove everyone wrong. All he had to do was agree to random blood testing and he declined. He throw all kinds of lame excuses. Remember the 30 days, then 24, then 14 excuses? This was so pathetic.

                  The boxing media, should have been all over him for refusing to take the test, yet instead they focused on Floyd. They gave Pacquiao a HUGE PASS for this just like baseball did with Mcguire and Sosa in 98. It was pathetic and embarrassing. I'm sure just like baseball writers now, look back at that with embarrassment, so to will these boxing writers.
                  No it wasnt. No su****ion was there until team floydiot unleashed the megaphone of butthurt, generating su****ion in a few but absolute guilt by his legion of ******ed fans(the same eejits who simultaneously claimed manny was easy work etc. Either they were schizophrenic, idiots or just bumsniffing fantwats).

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Post
                    Let me try to make this even easier for some of you..........WHAT REASON WOULD A PERSON HAVE TO AVOID A DRUG TEST?!
                    You need to understand psychology. If one man gets up in your face and accuses you of being cheap and demands 2 bucks and another man asks politely, which man are you most likely to give 2 bucks to? Mayweather just demanding the tests became an accusation in itself and Pac's ego handled the demand the wrong way, a childish way. In that scenario I blame Mayweather 20% for how he handled the situation and I blame Pac 80% for making excuses. A) Floyd all of a sudden asks Pac and no other fighter for testing which comes across as an accusation and B) Pac takes it personal and sues and claims blood draws make him weak so that in a nutshell is why both are to blame.

                    But over the course of all the negotiation I blame all the egos on both sides of the fence and how un business-like all parties handled the situation like Arum's countdown clock and Floyd's calling Pac on the phone and trying to negotiate without Arum and the percentages which should have been determined by Accountants to figure out who earns what based on past revenue instead of "I'll give you this much and take it or leave it" approach by Floyd which is not a true negotiation but more like Floyd is the one who has all the say so. But now add the layer that we all know stops everything and that is Arum because without Arum, Pac would have accepted the fight over the phone. Damn, I have never wished senility on anyone but Arum deserves senility. Pac should have broken free from Arum long ago, he is the greatest block because Pac did agree to the tests and that is why Floyd called him but Arum is the major block.
                    Last edited by richardt; 11-12-2013, 11:48 AM.

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                      #60
                      That was a good article. Unfortunately the idiots occupying NSB will make this about Floyd vs Pac. Sad.

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