is there anyway floyd could have beaten leonard?

[TEKGaming]

Duran hadn't fought as a lightweight for two and a half years by the time of the Leonard fight. He'd fought well over a dozen times at 140 before he even had his last fight at lightweight, and had just whitewashed Carlos Palomino the year previous.



This notion that he was "still a lightweight" is wrong.

You're right, I just checked boxrec and his wiki to be sure. My memory was off I guess because most of those fights in between were record-padders.

Regardless, my point remains true. People overhype champions of the past and consider conditions for fighters like SRL but not for every other fighter, namely Floyd. We forget so easily how SRL cherry picked pretty damn hard throughout his career and avoided Hagler until he was way past his prime. Even then, the fight was extremely competitive and I remember having Hagler winning a close score.

[noekin3]

I know its wrong but im loving this thread..........
Murka keep doing your thing man!, Golovkin is hours away

[StarshipTrooper]

Im in read because when I dominate debates, I come across as condescending, in which you will soon see. People get bitter and red k me. Everyone on this site is biased except for me. And your pushing an agenda. Anyone who looks at SRL and Floyd side by side, and have the audacity to say that SRL is better, is a baldfaced liar. Its like night and day. I know you hate to admit that a present day fighter is better than a past ATG. And if Broner was better than Floyd 10 years from now, you'd never admit it. But Im in the business of being real. Thats why you and me cant relate. I push no agendas!

Now accept the fact that you was wrong, and move along my lil dawg, no beef.

Dude. Seriously. You aren't dominating anything other than the competition for the tool-of-the-month award. You need to quit and click the X before you make an even bigger ass out of yourself than you already have.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this tool is LarryX's latest soon-to-be-banned incarnation.

[MurkaMan]

Alvarez was the only fighter of those three that drew a great deal of interest, which owes more to how well marketed Canelo was rather than anything he had ever demonstrated as a fighter.



Nobody wanted to see him fight Ortiz, and no f^cker had any interest in seeing him fight Guerrero until rumours started emerging of a possible Alexander fight popped up, and the former fight then became the lesser of two evils.

Everyone wanted to see him fight Ortiz. Of course we would have rather see him fight Pacman, but Ortiz was a great opponent and if Floyd had not fought him, ALL of us, including you would have called him a ducker. As far as no one wanting to see him fight Ghost, no one really know who Ghost was. But what does people wanting to see him fight them, have to do with them being great fighters with entirely different styles, and Floyd being forced to compromise his OWN fighting style in order to dominate them without getting grazed? Thats LEGENDARY what Floyd does. If SRL fought them, he may have stopped them, but he would have had all out brawls and wars. Its NO WAY SRL would dominate them as well as Floyd because his skillset is WAAAY lower.

And why did you pick a portion of my comment to respond to? Opposed to responding to the whole thing, in which I went into great details about those fighters you went out of your way to discredit? Outside of Pac Ghost was THE ABSOULTE MOST credible opponent at ww. Everytime Floyd fights, everyone goes OUT OF THEIR WAY to discredit the opposition. How can you call a guy too young? Thats a good p.hucking thing that the nickah is in his prime. Or call a guy too old, when he's coming off a great KO win? Cotto was the only damaged fighter that Floyd has fought since returning to face JMM, and anyone after that!

[MurkaMan]

Dude. Seriously. You aren't dominating anything other than the competition for the tool-of-the-month award. You need to quit and click the X before you make an even bigger ass out of yourself than you already have.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this tool is LarryX's latest soon-to-be-banned incarnation.

Your calling me a tool out of frustration. I dont have to call anyone names because I know Im right, and you all get upset when someone refuses to go along with the agendas.

I havent made an ass out of myself. How could I do that? Just speaking the truth? Do you know how fake you seem when you try to argue that SRL is better than Floyd PH.UCKING Mayweather when they are two COMPLETELY different fighters? We're not debating Broner and SRL, fool where talking about FLOYD.....I just dont see the point in even trying to act like SRL is better. I always said Pacman or Aaron Pryor would give Floyd a good fight not no damn SRL GTFO!!!!

[StarshipTrooper]

Your calling me a tool out of frustration. I dont have to call anyone names because I know Im right, and you all get upset when someone refuses to go along with the agendas.

I havent made an ass out of myself. How could I do that? Just speaking the truth? Do you know how fake you seem when you try to argue that SRL is better than Floyd PH.UCKING Mayweather when they are two COMPLETELY different fighters? We're not debating Broner and SRL, fool where talking about FLOYD.....I just dont see the point in even trying to act like SRL is better. I always said Pacman or Aaron Pryor would give Floyd a good fight not no damn SRL GTFO!!!!

Alt dude. Everyone in this thread is laughing at you. Click the X and put a bag over your head.

[Ham Porter]

We forget so easily how SRL cherry picked pretty damn hard throughout his career and avoided Hagler until he was way past his prime. Even then, the fight was extremely competitive and I remember having Hagler winning a close score.

You won't another fighter of the last fifty years who fought a tougher level of competition - in succession - like Leonard did from 1978-1981, so the notion that he cherry-picked throughout his career is pure fallacy. The argument that he avoided Hagler carries about as much weight as the argument that Hagler avoided Michael Spinks.


Also @ "even then" - as if Leonard was expected to even last more than a couple of rounds. The fact that it was so close and so competitive is of no credit to Hagler, believe me.

[roxy]

is there anyway floyd could have beaten leonard?

Yes, he could if he made an old Leonard drop from super middleweight to welterweight for the fight.

But other than that NO!

[TEKGaming]

You won't another fighter of the last fifty years who fought a tougher level of competition - in succession - like Leonard did from 1978-1981, so the notion that he cherry-picked throughout his career is pure fallacy. The argument that he avoided Hagler carries about as much weight as the argument that Hagler avoided Michael Spinks.

I don't think you know how to use the word 'fallacy' properly.

Also @ "even then" - as if Leonard was expected to even last more than a couple of rounds. The fact that it was so close and so competitive is of no credit to Hagler, believe me.

It was Hagler's last fight. Herp derp.

[MurkaMan]

Alt dude. Everyone in this thread is laughing at you. Click the X and put a bag over your head.

No one is laughing at me. But hypothetically if they were, then its THEIR prerogative to do so, Anyone who disagrees, is a fake who hates to admit that SRL really doesnt have the skillset to find away to be Floyd. I gave Pryor and Pacman a better chance because they are waaaaay faster, throw so many punches, all angles, movement, reflexes, never tire. SRL would be reduced to throwing one or two shots a round, and SRL is not a natural boxer at ALL!! If you feel Im an Atl, then thats your opinion. Your entitled to be WRONG as long as you feel like your right. No beef my lil dawg!