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    Murka you have spoke absolute bollocks for all 20 pages of this thread and picking an argument with a clearly more knowledgeable and more intelligent poster like Bushbaby is making you look an even bigger tit. The vast majority on here have said they would give Floyd very little chance against Ray Leonard but the fact you seem to have not noticed this shows you dont really read others posts before posting yourself.
    Floyd is a truly great fighter, but all of us who saw SRL at his best know he was a different level again.

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      Originally posted by hogey View Post
      Murka you have spoke absolute bollocks for all 20 pages of this thread and picking an argument with a clearly more knowledgeable and more intelligent poster like Bushbaby is making you look an even bigger tit. The vast majority on here have said they would give Floyd very little chance against Ray Leonard but the fact you seem to have not noticed this shows you dont really read others posts before posting yourself.
      Floyd is a truly great fighter, but all of us who saw SRL at his best know he was a different level again.
      Bushbaby aint SHIET!?!?!?! LOL You must have fell for his antics. Anyone who knows boxing knows that Floyd is LIGHTYEARS more skilled. And I aint just saying that. Dude is WAAY better. SRL struggled with Benitez and Floyd Sr. Jr aint no damn Sr homie. Not even close. People who had the AUDACITY to say that SRL, a guy who couldnt even land a jab on Duran,could even give Floyd a tough fight, is one of those fans who hate to admit when a present era fighter is better than a past era ATG. If Broner got better than Floyd ten years from now, NO one would actually admit it. SRL is overrated and has limited skills in comparison to Floyd. Floyd is a child prodigy no bs.

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        Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
        I didnt see any special skills

        Of course you didn't; to actually see something that is blatantly obvious would mean having to wipe Floyd's semen out of your eye. And the fact that you just acknowledged his footwork - one of the most important aspects of boxing - really undermines your whole argument of "not seein dem mad skills, yo."




        But yes, Canelo, Guerrero and Ortiz are great fighters.




        Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
        I dont care about Duran wining titles, SRL fought him because he felt he would win easily.


        Mayweather and his apologists usually justify him not fighting certain opposition on the basis that "he would win easily." I can understand why the whole concept of getting in the ring and actually proving it is a bit alien to you.



        Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
        SRL wanted no part of Pryor. You have your opinion I have mine.


        Here's the problem with your opinion: it's ****** and wrong.

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          Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
          Bushbaby aint SHIET!?!?!?! LOL You must have fell for his antics. Anyone who knows boxing knows that Floyd is LIGHTYEARS more skilled. And I aint just saying that. Dude is WAAY better. SRL struggled with Benitez and Floyd Sr. Jr aint no damn Sr homie. Not even close. People who had the AUDACITY to say that SRL, a guy who couldnt even land a jab on Duran,could even give Floyd a tough fight, is one of those fans who hate to admit when a present era fighter is better than a past era ATG. If Broner got better than Floyd ten years from now, NO one would actually admit it. SRL is overrated and has limited skills in comparison to Floyd. Floyd is a child prodigy no bs.
          Its like a river of Diarrhea flows from your keyboard, have you not noticed that for page after page pretty much everyone disagrees with you. The fact you have posted about 50 times saying the same nonsense does not make you right.

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            Originally posted by hogey View Post
            Its like a river of Diarrhea flows from your keyboard, have you not noticed that for page after page pretty much everyone disagrees with you. The fact you have posted about 50 times saying the same nonsense does not make you right.
            I think for myself. No one has to agree with me. SRL wasnt a complete fighter. Maybe in his era he was. But Floyd was born for this. It is what it is my lil dawg.

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              Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
              Bushbaby aint SHIET!?!?!?! LOL You must have fell for his antics. Anyone who knows boxing knows that Floyd is LIGHTYEARS more skilled. And I aint just saying that. Dude is WAAY better. SRL struggled with Benitez and Floyd Sr. Jr aint no damn Sr homie. Not even close. People who had the AUDACITY to say that SRL, a guy who couldnt even land a jab on Duran,could even give Floyd a tough fight, is one of those fans who hate to admit when a present era fighter is better than a past era ATG. If Broner got better than Floyd ten years from now, NO one would actually admit it. SRL is overrated and has limited skills in comparison to Floyd. Floyd is a child prodigy no bs.
              Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
              I think for myself. No one has to agree with me. SRL wasnt a complete fighter. Maybe in his era he was. But Floyd was born for this. It is what it is my lil dawg.
              You post like a teenager so i guess you have no real clue about how good Leonard was, but i can promise you he would never get beat up by someone like Castillo. Floyd is great but he has done it in a far weaker era and by avoiding some tough challengers until they are shot. Oh and sort yourself out son calling someone "my lil dawg" is even more cringeworthy than your inane posts.

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                Originally posted by Don Duva View Post
                Of course you didn't; to actually see something that is blatantly obvious would mean having to wipe Floyd's semen out of your eye. And the fact that you just acknowledged his footwork - one of the most important aspects of boxing - really undermines your whole argument of "not seein dem mad skills, yo."




                But yes, Canelo, Guerrero and Ortiz are great fighters.








                Mayweather and his apologists usually justify him not fighting certain opposition on the basis that "he would win easily." I can understand why the whole concept of getting in the ring and actually proving it is a bit alien to you.







                Here's the problem with your opinion: it's ****** and wrong.
                Footwork, speed, range, and power. You cant sum Floyd up with just a few attributes. Dude is a master-artist.

                And yes Ghost, Canelo, and Ortiz are all great fighters that people would call Floyd a DUCKER had he not faced them. I SURELY would have, and give him props for taking the challenge. He had to compromise his style in order to DOMIATE EACH without getting GRAZED.

                If SRL had fought them he may have stopped them but had all out brawls, wars, etc with. SRL doesnt have the skills to fight them without a hint of problems.

                SRL is overrated.

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                  Originally posted by hogey View Post
                  You post like a teenager so i guess you have no real clue about how good Leonard was, but i can promise you he would never get beat up by someone like Castillo. Floyd is great but he has done it in a far weaker era and by avoiding some tough challengers until they are shot. Oh and sort yourself out son calling someone "my lil dawg" is even more cringeworthy than your inane posts.
                  If you feel that I post like a teenager thats YOUR opinion. Your entitled to feel however you want. And when Floyd fougt Castillio he complained about a bum shoulder from the SECOND round before he knew he would lose. NOT after the fight as an excuse. He rematched and DOMINATED. But SRL had a close fight with Hagler and NEVER rematched him.

                  SRL fought in a decent era and cherrypicked WORSE than Floyd GTFO!!!

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                    Not a chance! Leonard stops him late!

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                      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                      Sorry Im not here to push an agenda that just because a fighter is fighting in a current era, that he automatically loses to a past ATG. I speak facts about the one sided azzwhoopin SRL would take if he fought Floyd. His own brother knows that he isnt good enough.
                      Agreed. Sometimes the fighter themselves are not the best judge of their own abilities when comparing simulations to another, but rather someone close to them who understands the mechanics that make that person work. I think his own brother picking Floyd over him, while not the end all be all variable, is one that is very profound.

                      People love to turn past ATGs into some sort of invincible mythological demi-god.

                      Objectivity seems to be more lacking among boxing fans than any other sport.

                      I also agree with some points another made on here about SRL having more room for mistakes and Floyd having less room though. I give the edge to Floyd and my money would be confidently on him if this ever took place in some pocket pseudo-parallel universe where both were prime and same size.
                      Last edited by TEKGaming; 11-02-2013, 05:01 PM.

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